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hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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Nov 2001
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New SAV Game Editor - TCG Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

Here's the latest TCG Editor v1.01 for Civ III saved games. Here's a list of the features:


  • Change victory conditions
  • Change forced retirement date
  • Modify treasury gold for all civs in game
  • Reveal the entire world map
  • Works with versions 1.07f and 1.16f (pre and post-patch)
  • Change the Player's Civ
  • New in version 1.01:Change the random seed stored in the game

The zip file has 2 files in it, the executable and a help file. The help file is a little thin right now, but it's there for future expansion. There is NO UNDO function, so be sure to save edited files under a new name. I don't recommend editing important SAV files and saving right back over them.

All you have to do is unzip the 2 files into the same directory anywhere you like and create a shortcut to the executable file on your desktop.

The editor is statically linked, making it a little big in size, but with all the different versions of Windows out there now I figured it might be better to avoid any dependencies on installed VC++ runtime DLLs. As a result, it should work on all versions of Windows that Civ3 itself does.

I edited this post to update the ZIP download attachment and for some reason I can't do it. So... LOOK FOR THE ATTACHMENT BELOW IN ANOTHER POST FROM ME

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FrantzX is offline FrantzX
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Multiplayer?

hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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Nov 2001
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There's a field that holds the Player's civ. I first tried just changing that field in order to switch civs. It didn't work as I expected it to, and the whole game just played itself without me having to make any moves at all! It was very strange to watch. I ended up changing around the steps the program makes to swap the player's civ with another one.

It does seem possible - even easy, maybe - that MP could be enabled with a little tinkering. I'm still experimenting.

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How do you start the program? I unzipped the file, but when I click on it I get a message stating that there is no assosciated program to open it.

hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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Nov 2001
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The file you need to double-click on is the Civ3SavEdit.exe file. Where did you unzip it to? .EXE files don't have "associated programs" ... they ARE programs! What are you d/c on?

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whole game just played itself without me having to make any moves at all! It was very strange to watch.


Wow! I want this feature for mod testing! Is it enabled in your editor ?

Dr Strangelove is offline Dr Strangelove
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The file you need to double-click on is the Civ3SavEdit.exe file. Where did you unzip it to? .EXE files don't have "associated programs" ... they ARE programs! What are you d/c on?


I figured it out. When I download straight off this forum everything gets named "attachment" so I have to rename the files before downloading. I renamed this file "tcgedit" without including the extension ".zip" so my computer didn't know hwo to open the program. Then I tried renaming the file "tcgedit.zip" and then unzipped it into the Civ3 main directory, but the unzipped file still didn't work. Finally I just opened the downloaded renamed file with Winzip classic and clicked on the civ3savedit.exe file and it worked fine.

Has anyone else had this problem? I wonder why I am?

What is "d/c on"?

Gutz is offline Gutz
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Dec 2001
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I think it is double click on.....

Gutz is offline Gutz
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I forgot to mention that for the download problem wher it names it attachment, you are most definitely not the only one. Just rename the file you download to anyname.zip and you can unzip it normally then.
Gutz

pauli is offline pauli
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neat program

looks like i'll be able to take my time finishing my game (i'm at 2045 now)

hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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Dr. Strangelove: Glad you got it to work. I've had download problems myself on several sites using IE 5.5. I don't know if it's IE version related or what. Whenever I download from southparkstudios.com I run into similar hassles, but when I download from Apolyton I never seem to have a problem.

Gutz: Yes, d/c is "double-click".

pauli: Please let me know if works for you. You should get the retirement warning 50 yrs. ahead of time. The warning is based on years and not turns, meaning if you set it to something ridiculous like 100 BC (-100), you'll get the warning only a turn or two ahead of the forced retirement date. Anything after 1948 and you'll get the full 50-year/50-turn heads-up warning.

s3d: It's not enabled but I'll play with it a bit this evening and see if I can make it happen at-will. I never thought it might actually be useful that way! Stay tuned.

Minuteman is offline Minuteman
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Jan 2002
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Hey hwinkels, just a suggestion, but you might want to consider making this utility available at Civ Fanatics as well. You're little utility is very useful but will only get buried in obscurity here.

hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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I hear you, Minuteman. Probably by the weekend. I've been trying to add a certain function to it without much luck (the auto-play thing) but I'll put it up there whether or not I can make it work in another couple of days. Thanks for the suggestion!

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He he. I'm waiting

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hwinkels: i don't believe i ever got a retirement warning. however, i got a cultural victory long before 2000 :/ i guess it's not going to bother stopping me. it didn't do anything when my ship launched, either.

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with this is it possible to change the other civ's so that after i start a game i can move the others to where i want them on the map.?>?

hwinkels is offline hwinkels
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The only thing you can do civ-wise is change which one you're leading. In other words, you can switch sides. You take over for the AI on one of the other civs and the AI takes over control of the civ you were previously controlling. The viewable map changes, too, depending on what territory the other civ knows about - your old land will go dark if your new civ doesn't have knowlege of it.

Besides that, you can't change their locations or anything.

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I'm interested in any feedback or comments anyone might have. I'm looking to add additional features in future versions. I know others have had similar programs out for awhile and they have a head-start on me, but I'd appreciate it if some of you would find some time to download it and try it out.


It's nice user-friendly editor, thanks for posting it.

Would it possible for a future additional feature to be a seed number reset option? From what I hear, the seed numbers that control "random" events in the game like combat are contained in the save game file itself, and it would be really helpful if you're stuck on a string of bad numbers to be able to change the seed.

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Heh. I added that to version 1.01. With all the problems people seem to have downloading files here, I decided to post it over at Civfanatics. Which is now down

So I'll update the version here in a few minutes

I was unable to update the attachment at the top of the thread, so I'll attach it directly in the next post...

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Here's the ZIP file for download. Please note that if you have trouble downloading it, you are not alone. Search the board for tips and advice on how to troubleshoot the problem. I don't know why some browsers have problems downloading from here

Attachment: tcg_101.zip
This has been downloaded 4149 time(s).

Red Zac is offline Red Zac
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Feb 2002
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Great work. This really works well. Unfortunately, it does so only in version 1.16f. Do you think to post a new version that also works with version 1.17f? Would be great!

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Hi!

I try to change the player civ and save the file but I received this error message....

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This has been downloaded 2026 time(s).

efejta is offline efejta
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Has there been any progress on this front? I would really like to be able to change civs.

Is there a newer utility that can do this (change the player's civ)?

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Love to have this utility for 1.21F... any plans to update this great utility?

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Is anyone posting source code to how they are doing what they are with their utilities?

I understand how hard it is to release your precious work, but if you aren't going to update it, then I don't see any reason not too.

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Has anyone had this work with the 1.21 patch? Or adapted it for the 1.21 patch if it didn't work?

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Does anyone know where hwinkels went?

I would really love to have this working with patch 1.21f - not to mention the upcoming patch.

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The program didn't work. I get lots of error messages when trying to open a .bic file.

Maybe it is a 'patch' problem..?

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I don't think the program has worked since 1.16f unfortuately. And it doesn't look like the author is still around, so it is unlikely we will ever see it updated.

It's a shame really - it would be absolutely great for playtesting

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It's the possibility that it could open up MP that I'm interested in.

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