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I beleived a word once. Lordy, it was a mess.
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Pembleton
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Cyberspace
Apr 1999
time: 23:17
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Originally posted by Ironikinit
I like how normal people with lives and a sense of proportion tend to be the ones who like Civ 3.
Not to rip on people with morbid pointless obsessions and a complete lack of manners or anything. Somebody to shoot their coworkers (I mean, if they actually had jobs) because they were so terribly disappointed by a game or the nightly news could lose ratings. |
I don't understand why people who don't like a game remain on a board for that game for months after they've stopped playing to continue bashing it or the people who have made it. I stopped playing this game but I occassionally stop here to see if they will include stacks in an upcoming patch so that I may give the game another chance but I don't waste my time whining about it. While I'm here I tend to read a few threads before I leave. Every time I'm here though I see the same people whining and then saying that Firaxis doesn't listen. Well if they don't listen then why are you wasting your breath?
Is it going to change anything? Civ3 is doing well enough and from many polls I've seen it is quite popular. There are a few who believe that because the game doesn't suit their own personal needs that the company should ignore the majority and cater to them only and if they don't, then they "don't listen".
Instead of lingering on my own personal complaints I move on and do other things. And that's what I've been doing since I stopped playing Civ3. You can see my post history to see that there is a gap between a frequency of my posts here and when I stopped. Of course I stopped mainly because this place became a zoo. I only post now because it's slowed down but the content of these threads are still basically the same old ****.
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Libertarian
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Instead of lingering on my own personal complaints I move on and do other things. |
Obviously. And we'll tell no one you were here.
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Pembleton
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Cyberspace
Apr 1999
time: 23:17
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Originally posted by Libertarian
Obviously. And we'll tell no one you were here. |
And the person who said that you take one quote out of context and twist its meaning was right.
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Libertarian
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And the person who said that you take one quote out of context and twist its meaning was right. |
He was left, actually.
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Libertarian
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People like you don't deserve the privledge (sic) of owning a computer. |
It's my wife's.
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Libertarian
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Hey Lib, I have to repeat the complaint of you not having included the MOO series in you set- I hope that MOO3 will be for the series all that Civ3 could have been for this series. |
You're right. An egregious oversight. It was hard to think of everything. I also left out Connections.
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I remember the first couple of Civ versions. It took a long time to really learn how to play the game.
First it was frustrating, then one would just play it to see if one would ever win, then you would win, then you would only start on maps that you wanted to play on, and then try all the options and all the civ's, and then 2 years had gone by, and then one started playing on higher levels of the game, just to see what one could do on that level, then patches came out and scenarios, and then faster computers, and then a lot of people were still playing the game, and then still, one needed your Emperor's hat, and your bugle, and confetti, and still other things to play the game, then one would just play it, because one was use to it, so until next year, do not tell me that you have played CIVIII enough to say that you are not boring. In a single player game, who really knows what you are doing in the game, and who really cares how one plays the game.
Are you my mother?
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And it will be on your hard drive, when other games have come and gone, come and gone, and come and gone!
Along with a couple of other classics coming out this year!
Because you know, that those other games you buy will be boring after playing them only a little while, but CIVIII will still be there, maybe with additional patches, and still be there, on your hard drive, ever tempting you to try one more time!
Really!
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Evil Robot
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Originally posted by DaShi
Actually, I enjoy CivIII very much considering that I don't own it. It reminds me that I made the right choice to not waste my fifty bucks. Not a choice I always make. |
I enjoy pirating software and I JUST LOVE ensuring that future games will be crappy and rushed to market without QA.
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MonsterMan
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Stockholm, Sweden
May 2001
time: 06:17
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Encomium: Most of what you bring up is not WRONG, it's just different to what you would like. How would you define "useless navies"? Sure there's room for a few more types of boats, especially from the renaissance, and they could do with higher movement rates, but they are modeled pretty good after their real counterparts.
Bombers are not supposed to sink warships. They are supposed to damage them enough for them either to retreat or be crushed by your own warships, among other useful things. That IS realistic.
Not that I want to offend anyone, but people who complain so much about culture flipping must not know how to play the game. I recently defeated the 30+ cities of Persia, kept every city and I only had ONE culture flip, shortly before their empire was defeated. Firaxis has also agreed to add a warning when a city is about to flip, IIRC.
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of naught
Aug 2001
time: 22:17
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Originally posted by DaShi
Unfortunately, some of the most venomous and hate-filled posts have come from those who do like the game. Yin has taken more heat than any single person deserves over a video game. And he was in charge of the list of suggestions to Firaxis when they were developing CivIII. Frankly, the hostility of the 'fanboys' is frightening fanaticism. |
Oh my.
Venom and hate? Whence does the venom and hate originate? Maybe with the people who hate the game and post incessantly to that effect. And those who belittle others who like the game. Where does it start DaShi?
Yin taken more heat? I think he has dished it out in full measure to what he has received in return. Just my opinion, not a mathematical study. I don't think anybody ever flamed him for what he attempted to contribute to civ3 during it's development.
Frightening Fanaticism? Isn't the negative aspect of fanaticism the part where that with which you do not agree becomes the enemy? Maybe like the game, or the people who like the game. I personally do not see a problem with behaviour bordering on the fanatical if it is directed in a positive, constructive direction. Was Mother Theresa a menace? The problem is when it is negative and destructive. Just my opinion.
On the subject of destructive fanaticism, the people who like the game are capable of it too. When they (we) flame in response to criticism we descend to the negative. Then the critics flame, then the fans flame, and then the ... What's the point?
I found that once some of the critics and some of the fans (myself included) dropped the hatchet(s), I started to have more fun on these boards. I gained more insights. And I've actually been able to engage in some constructive conversations, even with *gasp* Yin. Did you know that Lib can be quite funny? No, you wouldn't if all you want to do is hate him.
The bottom line is that when the people who do not like the game go negative, they invite more negative. When the people who like the game go negative, we invite MUCH more negative. Such is the nature of fanaticism, on both sides.
I do have to admit though, that I would have preferred if all the hatchets could have been buried, IN YINs BACK. Just kidding, sortta. 
Salve
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