23-01-2002 03:42									#1
	Kohan Got spare money?

I've been playing Kohan for almost 3 days straight and have got to say it's an absolute blast. The mechanics for company construction, it's city management system, the graphics/voice-acting are all fantastic. It's dropped in price recently, so nows the time to jump on it.

Jeff

	23-01-2002 04:15									#2
	that explains alot! Full PM-box? Change here!

so that's why the patch isn't out yet!

btw is it RTS? an add for it came in the EU2 box

	23-01-2002 13:15									#3
	Suffering from ads?

Yeah, it is an RTS... but I think it is streamlined, instead of individual units, you have companies, as I take it.

	24-01-2002 09:03									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Judging by what Underdogs says here it's too good a game to reject on the RTS vs TBS grounds.

I think I'll buy it as the price falls (currently 30+ US dollars where I shop) and it needs a P II 300MHz, which I don't have yet.

	24-01-2002 13:37									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Yep, it's fun. Very stylish. Clearly a quality team worked on it.

As for Civ3 ...

Once the fan-subsidized beta phase winds down and we get the feature-complete Gold Edition perhaps by the end of this year, it will be interesting to see if Firaxis can make a game of similar caliber. Too bad it will have cost $100 to participate in all phases of the testing program.

How much is Kohan again?

	24-01-2002 18:12									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

You don't have to be snide. Civ 3 bashing should be left to subjects or forums dedicated to Civ3 bashing(i.e. the general forum). You're just threadjacking now.

Kohan's expansion came out just a bit ago but I think it's still a stand alone and doesn't require the original. In Canada, It goes for about $40, so maybe $30 American. Everyone I know who's played is usually impressed with how well implemented the game is. Considering it's performed well, depite the limited marketing, it's a testament to how solid the game design is.

(Oh. Published by the same folks who published Europa Universalis.)

	24-01-2002 20:47									#7
	Increase the size of your Attachments

I'll post when and how I please. When the QA guy from Firaxis posts about a game other than the one his is responsible for fixing, I find comparisons between the two games to be on-topic.

	24-01-2002 22:41									#8
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Yin, the topic of this thread is a specific game. If you want to discuss the comparison of two games, please post in the Apolyton/Community forum

thank you.

	24-01-2002 23:13									#9
	Support Apolyton

Besides, let's face it. You were using this thread to get on his case rather than talk about the game. We're not exactly idiots here.

	25-01-2002 02:15									#10
	Increase Your PM Length

Heheh, right on SixArmedMan.

And, I just played the demo and it looks like a total blast. I, personally, despise RTS, but I might just get this one.

	25-01-2002 03:26									#11
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

LOL! I stand by my original statement: Kohan is a fun, highly polished game that you won't need to wait for the Gold Edition to have a feature-complete experience with.

Markos: Fair enough. I have said my peace.

	25-01-2002 03:44									#12
	Tired of ads?

Well Yin, you seem to know so much about the game. I mean, you've said lots of great things about it, and compared it to other games and stuff... How many times have you played it again? Not that I'm saying that your flattering compliments are merely a pre-text to justify using this thread to carry out your vendetta against Firaxis or anything...

	25-01-2002 05:02									#13
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Tell you what: Try the game and get back to us.

	25-01-2002 05:23									#14
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

quote: Originally posted by yin26 Tell you what: Try the game and get back to us.

You mean Civ3 right?

	25-01-2002 05:49									#15
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Civ3? Is that out yet?

	25-01-2002 18:07									#16
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

So Kohan is that good? I really hadn't even considered looking at the game, but I need my "New Game" fix, and since SEIV Gold and MOO3 are yet a ways off..

I think I will do some Kohan research.

	26-01-2002 00:52									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

It really doesn't play like many real time games, especially with regards to unit management. It's just a kick to see some 50 diverse military units clash against another 50, but I'm really only directly controlling 7 or so individuals. I have rarely found any RTS where most of my time isn't spent drag-selecting. Kohan however is such a game. The only thing that I think needed some extra work is the way it displays your resources. The negative numbers don't indicate any real problem, just that you're paying gold to make up the difference. A small fault in an otherwise magnificent tutorial..

Jeff

	26-01-2002 15:54									#18
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I went and got the latest Kohan.. Ahriman's Gift.

What a fun game! It is quite unique from other RTS games (and I have played a lot of them). Easy to manage, and just a blast combining different units to form specialized companies and regiments. And you're right: the micromanging and click-infestation is negligeble.

Thanx for the heads-up on this one!

	29-01-2002 01:14									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

The company construction stuff has all the addictiveness of a CCG, but with smaller decks and lots of them. Once I found the halberd/cleric/mage combo, I must have depended on them for a quarter of the solo campaign. But as I started understanding how the provided benefits work (that they need to be in support slots, etc), I started using a stable of company compositions. One favorite was the ranger/paladin/archers. These guys could speed through forests like they weren't there, attack at range, and get a bonus against shadow creatures. Not to mention the paladin was like a lawnmower if anyone managed to get close.

Jeff

	02-02-2002 16:19									#20
	Kohan & Rts Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I don't dislike RTS, I just generally hate the implementations. I did like Kohan very much but still, as in all RTS's, just when you've built your kingdom up you have to throw the game away because you won. There isn't even a hall of fame to remember your efforts by.

Most RTS, and even to some extent Kohan, primarily uise the old O&O strategy which makes for rather repetative games. (out produce and overwhelm)

Ps, he may be threadjacking a bit but it was limited to a legitimate comparison so technidcally he can be guilt free.

To put things in perspective, if you really want to try a deadly awful game get a copy of 'Merchant Prince II'.