23-01-2002 23:18									#1
	Extra Pack Finalization Project (Part 7: Existing Civs) Increase the size of your Attachments

OK, to continue and relive discussion until we finally find some graphics guys ( ), I'll move to the next part.
I think it's commonly agreed that we won't change too much about existing civs. NTL, leaders and city lists could be a matter of discussion.
I've put here in my first post the lists for romans, egyptians and greeks as I use them in my games.
Every contribution, addition, critics etc. welcomed.

Ys. Wernazuma

Romans

Cities:
Rome
Veii
Antium
Cumae
Neapolis
Pompeji
Pisa
Ravenna
Mediolanum
Hispalis
Narbo
Viroconium
Lugdunum
Lutetia
Constantinopolis
Brundisium
Bononia
Caesaraugusta
Gades
Ostia
Hierosolyma
Cremona
Caesarea
Nicomedia
Capua
Seleucia
Artaxata
Aurelianorum
Hippo Regius
Nicopolis
Londinium
Placentia
Eburacum
Naissus
Carnuntum
Tarraco
Arretium
Emona
Gordion
Colonia Agrippinensis
Brigantium
Cyrene
Aquincum
Verona
Corfinium
Augusta Treverorum
Sirmium
Camulodunum
Durostorum
Damascus
Arelate
Lindum
Poetovio
Virunum
Camulodunum
Volubilis
Augustadorum
Vindobona
Pola
Trapezus
Sinope
Aquae Sulis
Iuvavum
Bagacum
Lauriacum
Utica
Teurnia
Ovilava
Deva
Curia
Olisipo
Flavia Solva

Leaders:
Scipio Africanus
Marius
Sulla
Pompeius Magnus
Octavianus
Markus Antonius
Germanicus
Agrippa
Tiberius
Claudius
Vespasian
Titus
Traian
Hadrian
Marcus Aurelius
Septimius Severus
Caracalla
Aurelian
Diocletian
Constantin I
Theodosius I
Iustinian

Egypt

Cities:
Thebes
Memphis
Heliopolis
Sais
Elephantine
Alexandria
Pi-Ramesses
Tanis
Giza
El-Amarna
Hieraconpolis
Abydos
Asyut
Askalon
Lisht
Buto
Hermopolis
Koptis
Edfu
Pithom
Busiris
Kahun
Athribis
Mendes
El-Ashmunein
Gaza
Buhen
Bubastis
Syene
This
Oryx
Sebennytus
Assuan
Luxor

Leaders:
Ramses
Cheops
Khufu
Hatshepsut
Thutmosis III
Mentuhotep
Seti
Na'rmer

Greeks:

Cities:
Athens
Sparta
Corinth
Argos
Eretria
Thebai (In distinction to egyptian Thebes)
Mykenai
Miletos
Syrakos
Chalkis
Megara
Pylos
Kerkyra
Delphi
Knossos
Phaistos
Aigina
Chios
Akragas
Pharsalos
Kroton
Samos
Zankle
Pella
Mytilene
Mallia
Mantineia
Naxos
Rhegion
Olympia
Lindos
Sikyon
Aigai
Ambrakia
Orchomenos
Methone
Taras
Larisa
Epidauros
Thasos
Torone
Pherai
Sybaris
Gortyn
Poteidaia
Plataiai
Methone
Kameiros
Amphipolis
Neapolis
Massalia
Krannon
Leukas
Olynthos
Pydna
Knidos
Lokroi
Phokaia
Kyme
Sestos
Pithekusai
Metapontion
Selinus
Naupaktos
Chaironeia
Melos
Istros
Tegea
Gela
Thurioi
Abdera
Ephesos
Megalopolis
Himera
Salamis
Kyzikos
Halikarnassos
Thessaloniki
Herakleia
Zakynthos
Kolophon
Abydos
Troizen
Patrai
Methone
Olbia
Dekeleia
Artemision
Naukratis
Apollonia
Eleusis
Thermopylai
Marathon
Apolyton

Leaders:
Perikles
Solon
Themistokles
Periander
Miltiades
Polykrates
Alkibiades
Epameinondas
Philipp
Kimon
Kleisthenes
Lysander
Dionysios
Alexis Sorbas
Antipater
Lykourgos
Ptolemaios
Timoleon
Pausanias
Seleukos
Leonidas
Peisistratos
Antigonos Monophtalmos
Hieron
Kassander
Pittakos
Kleon
Antigonos Gonatas
Drakon
Gelon
Pyrrhos
Demetrios Poliorketes

Last edited by Wernazuma III on 25-01-2002 at 23:07

	24-01-2002 07:06									#2
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How about taking a walk down the Fosse Way and coming and having a bath in Aquae Sulis?

Fosse Way:

fos , Roman road in England. It apparently ran from Exeter (Isca Dumnoniorum) NE past Bath (Aquae Sulis), Cirencester (Corinium Dobunnorum), and Leicester (Ratae Coritanorum) to Lincoln (Lindum). It intersected Watling Street.

I like to include Leptis Magna and Volubilis too:

http://i-cias.com/morocco/volubilis.htm

http://www.libyaonline.com/libya/leptis.html



Do you add Hatshepsut and Tuthmosis III to your list of Egyptian leaders?

	24-01-2002 14:02									#3
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molly: I added the egyptian leaders. Could you tell me which of those british roman cities were the most important? Maybe we should add 3-4 more english roman cities, not more I guess. Plus all participants can add one "fav. settlement", even when it was more a sh*thole than a city (just take a look at the last roman city in the list, that was a more or less unimportant site, but it's only a few km from my home (Graz), so I dared to add it.

I won't add Leptis because we already have it in the Phoenician list. Volubilis will be added though.

Thanks for the input.

	25-01-2002 07:57									#4
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III molly: I added the egyptian leaders. Could you tell me which of those british roman cities were the most important? Maybe we should add 3-4 more english roman cities, not more I guess. Plus all participants can add one "fav. settlement", even when it was more a sh*thole than a city (just take a look at the last roman city in the list, that was a more or less unimportant site, but it's only a few km from my home (Graz), so I dared to add it. I won't add Leptis because we already have it in the Phoenician list. Volubilis will be added though. Thanks for the input.

Happy to oblige-

LONDINIVM AVGVSTA (London, Greater London)


Roman Coloniae

CAMVLODVNVM (Colchester, Essex)
EBVRACVM (York, Yorkshire)
GLEVVM (Gloucester, Gloucestershire)
LINDVM (Lincoln, Lincolnshire)


British Tribal Cities

CAESAROMAGVS [TRINOVANTVM] (Chelmsford, Essex)
CALLEVA ATREBATVM (Silchester, Hampshire)
CORINIVM DOBVNNORVM (Cirencester, Gloucestershire)
DVRNOVARIA [DVROTRIGVM] (Dorchester, Dorset)
DVROVERNVM CANTIACORVM (Canterbury, Kent)
ISCA DVMNONIORVM (Exeter, Devon)
ISVRIVM BRIGANTVM (Aldborough, North Yorkshire)
MORIDVNVM [DEMETARVM] (Carmarthen, Dyfed)
NOVIOMAGVS REGNORVM (Chichester, West Sussex)
PETVARIA [PARISORVM] (Brough on Humber, Humberside)
RATAE CORIELTAVORVM (Leicester, Leicestershire)
VENTA BELGARVM (Winchester, Hampshire)
VENTA ICENORVM (Caistor St. Edmund, Norfolk)
VENTA SILURUM (Caerwent, Gwent)
VERVLAMIVM [CATVVELLORVM] (St. Albans, Hertfordshire)
VIROCONIVM CORNOVIORVM (Wroxeter, Shropshire)


Roman Spa Towns

AQVAE ARNEMETIAE (Buxton, Derbyshire)
AQVAE SVLIS (Bath, Avon


If you wanted a reasonable geographic spread, you could have Deva/Chester in the north west, Isca/Caerleon in South Wales, Camulodunum/Colchester in the east, and Aquae Sulis/Bath in the south- all of them have noteworthy Roman remains to this day.

These are also good sites-

http://www.britannia.com/history/eb...niuscities.html

http://www.roman-britain.org/places/_six.htm