28-01-2002 17:14									#1
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Please put down your nominance (self-nominance is allowed)!

I would like to be Foreign Minister!

Because I am interested in Foreign affairs and I will do my best for this great country or empire.

My policies are to follow your results in the polls, but I would like to have an aggressive foreign policy!

	28-01-2002 20:00									#2
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Excellent! We start with conflict as I, too, wish to be Foreign Secretary aka DiploSpyMaster for our fair nation.

I promise an active and aggressive Foreign Policy carried out with much secrecy, economy of truth and, of course, in 'the Best Interests of the People' - as defined by me.
Vote for ME - and we shall conquer the world!

	28-01-2002 21:24									#3
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Hear hear!

I nominate myself for Science Minister. I will happily guide our workers to maximum arrow production, while meeting demands of shields and food needs. Smart people with advanced weaponry are victors when the dust clears! Under my guidance, we will be the most advanced people in the world.


(le Marquis w/smarmy politician's grin)

(SG: "economy of truth" That alone shows your excellent qualifications for the post...)

	28-01-2002 22:18									#4
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I, Kassiopeia, nominate myself as the Minister of City Planning.

My guideline will be that our fighting forces, developing science communities and our very own citizens will enjoy a productive and happy life provided by all the Barracks, Cathedrals and Libraries they can desire.

Also I will make sure that our infrastructure outside the cities will be rich of transportation, food and shield production.

And by the way, in case that I am horridly impaled by a gymnastic instrument when attending school, I promise to appoint an able deputy to serve The People until a new Minister of City Planning has been instated.

	29-01-2002 02:53									#5
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ok,hereby I nominate myself as "Supreme General" of our emperial forces.
In cooperation with our foreign minister's spies/diplo's I will make sure the world will be conquered,peacefully and if they don't want to listen Manu Militari.
Our army will be strong enough to protect our population and my primary goal will be to make sure the only victims will be our enemies.

Shade

	29-01-2002 21:40									#6
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I nomiate myself for the role of Expansion Leader. Proper location of new city sites is vital to to ensure no resources are wasted and cities are not forced to compete with one another. I will make sure that people will see the wisdom of my placements, even if it takes a few thousand years!

	29-01-2002 23:11									#7
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maybe it's usefull to place a list of the jobs(and next to the job the selfnominated persons,so we can see wich are still available and who is competing for wich job)

Ok I took the Jobs stated on Civ-Fanatics(so you don't always have to go there to find out what a job means),I kept the most but made some little additions/changes.=>comments?Let me know

--> Department heads And Their Duties

President:
Is responsible for actually playing the game. Also gathers info from Ministers on how the game is to be played. Breaks ties and makes decisions that haven't been made by department heads.

Vice President:
Vice President, and takes over in event that President is missing.
=Backup president(I would suggest to make it possible to combine this job with an other==>something like the minister who is in the governement for the 3 time can has this job as special addition.)
His job is also to listen to the grieves of the population and route serious problems to the right governement-departement.

Military Advisor(Supreme leader of our military forces)
Host polls on military actions, defence, and (If war has been declared) war time actions. Reports military decisions to the President.
Since exploration has been done by 'military' or para-military troops(in most of the last 1000 years of our history)I suggest that exploration(ie the uncovering of the map/hunting for huts)is also one of the jobs of the military advisor.Military exploration can be considered as "To Boldly Go,Where No Apolytonian Has Gone Before"

Science Advisorour personal Einstein-Hawking clone)
Host polls about science rates, and technology goals. Both through research, espionage, and conquering!
This is also the person who will be putting up techlines wich could be followed.

Trade Advisor:
Host polls about tax rate. Trade within Cities, and with foregin powers.Use of caravans(Wonders/foodcaravans to speed up city growth/foreign traderoutes/home trade routes)

City Planner :
Hosts polls on what cities should build what. And how workers should be distrubuted.
Has to work closely with Science/trade/military/...

Emperial Expansion Advisor:
Host polls about exploration(this version of exploration is different from that from the military advisor,here the exploration means that territory will be cultivated-> building cities/improvements bringing the teritory in 'culture' wheras the exploration of the military advisor is just looking around), and city expansion. Picking best city places, roads and rails that fall outside City Borders (These are responibility of City Planners)

Foreign Advisor:
Host polls about wars(if we should declare war or not), alliances, trades of tech, gold etc....to other nations. And also Government Types.The Foreign Advisor aka Diplo/Spymaster is also in charge of diplomats and spies.Attacks by diplomats/spies are ordered by the Foreign Advisor(mostly in cooperation with military advisor)

Regular Players:
Their responsibilites are to vote in polls posed by leaders, as well as discuss possible alternatives.
They also can place their grieves by the vice-president.

Historian:
Keeps track of the gamehistory.
Handles the ellections.(I'd suggest this to be a job you have to keep during a longer period,ie not bassed on election)
Also keeps the memberrecord updated.

-->Who keeps track of the polls??--> the one in charge ie the one who organized it.

President
[Shaka Naldur/Marquis de Sodaq]

Vice-President
[No victim yet]

Science Advisor
[Marquis de sodaq/Gramphos]

Foreign Advisor(aka spymaster)
[adamsj/Scouse Gits(1)]

Military Advisor(aka supreme leader of our emperial army)
[Shade]

Trade Advisor
[El Awrence ]

City-planner
[kassiopeia]

Emperial Expansion Advisor
[Frank Johnson]

Historian
[Volunteers????]

Comments/changes/missinterpretations made by me let me know I'll solve as soon as possible.

Shade
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Last edited by shade on 06-02-2002 at 13:27

	29-01-2002 23:16									#8
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Expansion Minister and City Planning(city internal development) are two different jobs, at least they are on the Civfanatics thread.

I admit they are closely tied, I already messaged him to strike up a close bond for the early game period....but still they are different jobs.....I'd get to explore / choose new city spots.....he would haggle over what buildings to make, demand I leave settlers longer to irrigate etc etc.........

	30-01-2002 02:00									#9
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Put me down for Minister of Economy and Treasurer.

	30-01-2002 02:45									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Frank Johnson Expansion Minister and City Planning(city internal development) are two different jobs, at least they are on the Civfanatics thread. I admit they are closely tied, I already messaged him to strike up a close bond for the early game period....but still they are different jobs.....I'd get to explore / choose new city spots.....he would haggle over what buildings to make, demand I leave settlers longer to irrigate etc etc.........

I agree with Mister Johnson here. We are running for different tasks, but will endeavour to co-operate in an orderly fashion.

	30-01-2002 19:59									#11
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Of course posts will affect the work of others. Maximizing beakers will necessarily require getting cooperation from whoever places city workers (which is what I actually had in mind...) and builds/sends caravans. Choosing the tech path will only be a part of the task! I think such overlap is what can make the game fun.

	30-01-2002 20:15									#12
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Question: How about base - erm, I mean, city governors?

	30-01-2002 20:21									#13
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I like the idea of a city governor. One player responsible for a city (or group of cities). However, this does conflict with the jobs of the ministerial posts. As the cabinet duties are applied across the land, they take precedence over the local rule, I think.

Another thought: If city governors were in conflict (I want to build that wonder! No, I do!) the cabinet would have to decide anyway...

	01-02-2002 07:30									#14
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I nominate Shaka Naldur for el presidente! He has so far been the only one to express interest...

	02-02-2002 01:53									#15
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made a little update,we just need a vice-president and a historian.
I also put in the job-descriptions,let me know what you think.

Shade
(just one little question since there is always so much *kuch kuch* to do at the beginning of the game we could maybe
-->Let the computer do a fast start(personally I think that is a bad idea)
-->Let the First president play the first 20 turns as "Tiran"
(maybe just give some guidelines to follow) and then start the Highcouncel bugging.)

	02-02-2002 02:37									#16
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Vice president should be 'awarded' to the runner-up of the presidential race, just has vice-deputy duties for the minister posts should also go to the 2nd place finisher in each respective election.

Also, you should note in the list of current nominations that it is SG1 up for Foreign Advisor (aka DiploSpyMaster), as I do believe that SG2 has also expressed an interest in playing but has not as yet been nominated for a post.

	02-02-2002 04:24									#17
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quote: Vice president should be 'awarded' to the runner-up of the presidential race,

OK,but you need at least 2 contestants to make it possible

Shade

	02-02-2002 04:28									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq I nominate Shaka Naldur for el presidente! He has so far been the only one to express interest...

but not yet!!
I don´t know yet how all this works

but thanks anyway, think about me in the future

	02-02-2002 04:32									#19
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Wel,Ive put you down for the job


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	02-02-2002 08:10									#20
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Listen guys, I'm perfectly willing to settle for expansion minister, but if I have to be president to get the game started, then so be it!

	02-02-2002 13:46									#21
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So I can consider you the second nominee for president??

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	02-02-2002 22:53									#22
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if frank has some experienced i would let him be the president

	02-02-2002 22:53									#23
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if frank has some experienced i will let him be the president

	03-02-2002 01:59									#24
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How long does an elected person sit?
Can an elected person resign before the end of his period?

	03-02-2002 19:53									#25
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What about regional province-governors who stand for the particularistic aspects of an empire. I mean, which citizens will not object if they're exploited for the sake of the whole empire. Like cities just producing units etc. Or areas which are given little infrastructure, not linked with roads, no mines or irrigation- hell, they got to have someone who speaks for them!

	03-02-2002 20:18									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Wernazuma III What about regional province-governors who stand for the particularistic aspects of an empire. I mean, which citizens will not object if they're exploited for the sake of the whole empire. Like cities just producing units etc. Or areas which are given little infrastructure, not linked with roads, no mines or irrigation- hell, they got to have someone who speaks for them!

Shouldn't the City-planner be interested in (at least some of) that?

	03-02-2002 21:49									#27
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Yeah, but he looks at the overall aspect of his decisions. I'm talking about those forces in a nation that absolutely can drive a government nuts, who just look for the benefit of their own special province and only partially have an eye for the whole thing. ("We want a temple and we want it now!")

There could be made something like: When a city is rioting, for the coming 20 turns a governor makes the decisions for that city and its units and settlers without direct interference from the central government.

	03-02-2002 23:58									#28
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All right, Shaka is interested in being the second president of Apolytonia. With no others showing interest,

I nominate myself for president!

If elected, I promise to decline the post of Science Advisor, provided somebody else nominates himself for that post...

I can see that we already have a good senate at hand - much discussing and mumbling, but no action! Follow the lead of president de Sodaq, we will become great.

	04-02-2002 00:16									#29
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq All right, Shaka is interested in being the second president of Apolytonia. With no others showing interest, I nominate myself for president! If elected, I promise to decline the post of Science Advisor, provided somebody else nominates himself for that post... I can see that we already have a good senate at hand - much discussing and mumbling, but no action! Follow the lead of president de Sodaq, we will become great.

you are the man for the job

	04-02-2002 13:15									#30
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update==>Marquis is now also selected for president(and I promis him all my support for the comming elections )

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