02-02-2002 18:01									#31
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Heyhey. I should probably leave this part to the CMN, but I'd like to point out a current 'vote' of 2-to-1 for Blind Research.

And since I prefer it, let me step briefly upon my soapbox for a moment to promote it, giving the game a little more mystery and strategy to deal with the unknown. Not to mention a touch of realism (I think).

Speaking of mystery, what say we limit the Comm channels to only implement them when we have justifiable Comms connections... IE, when we can see another's unit, or when we make a deal with another to give over a Comm frequency? This is an honour system thing, I think, might be fun, I've seen others trying it. To what success, I can't say. I'm not fixated on this either, but it might be fun. It also might just be too much trouble :>

On a footnote, I'm pretty amazed at all the versions of SMA* out there now! What rock have I been hiding under? One covered with much fungus, I'm sure!

	02-02-2002 18:14									#32
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Just waiting for Qantaga to finish up with the map. And, not too late to join if someone wants in. If more people want directed research, then speak out, because otherwise it's blind(not such a big deal though).

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Those rules seem fine to me, we could discuss some of them, if needed. But if not, then I'd like to rule any kind of cheating or taking advantage of "features" out.

	02-02-2002 19:41									#33
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Hi all:

I guess I'd better step up prior to moving on and say for the record, although "more the merrier", in the PBEM games, when you have more than 4-5 people, they just never go anywhere as people tire, drop out or just plain dissappear. I say we go with 5 people and get on with it. Otherwise, I'm afraid that this game is going to go nowhere!

Radman

	02-02-2002 20:20									#34
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Thanks for your responses. I think we have almost everything I need.

Just a few more things:

- As I am reading it, it looks like Shai-Hulud and duMa want blind research while Darsnan and smhfan86 both have expressed a choice for directed. This is such a critical choice in shaping the path of the game, that we really want to have a consensus, so I'd like to get Radman's vote one way or the other. Of course, Shai-Hulud could use his "driver" vote and tell me definitely that blind research is on.

- Darsnan originally posted a choice for 30-50% oceans and everyone has seemed to go along with that. However, looking around on the Huge map, that is an awful lot of land. Of course, I can shape things around a bit, but if you want some islands and some room for naval maneuvering (as Shai-Hulud posted before), then you may want to go with 50-70% oceans. That still leaves more than enough land for everyone. Shai-Hulud since this game is your vision, perhaps you can give me your thoughts.

- I do think that Radman is correct, that we should leave this at 5 players. I am in a 7-player game with some very reliable players who have been on these boards for a long time. Even in that game, the turns only come every three days or so.

- Shai-Hulud, you can either post here or e-mail me the free tech that you want as University.

Otherwise, things are shaping up nicely.

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	02-02-2002 23:01									#35
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are we allowing in-game communicatation right away, or are we waiting for in-game contact? if we wait for in-game contact, comm signals will become more valuable, not to mention the empath guild.

plus we'll have a natural tech stag, cuz we won't be trading off the bat.

	03-02-2002 02:43									#36
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I guess in the deciding vote on technology development. It would be my preference to not have it blind. In regards to the continents, either way is fine by me!

Finally, I think we should wait for contact in regards to communication between the factions. Talk to you all later.

Radman

	03-02-2002 05:10									#37
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The map is in place. I am going to spend some time tonight testing the game to make sure everything plays out okay. Assuming the testing goes well, I will get the game out tomorrow.

	03-02-2002 05:27									#38
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Hi Qantaga:

Hey, thanks alot. I know it must take a whole lot of your time. We really appreciate your assistance.

Radman

	03-02-2002 05:30									#39
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Heah Q,
ditto on Radman's comments: really appreciated!

	03-02-2002 07:46									#40
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Mucho appreciated, Qantago.

My apologies to all for mis-counting the votes regarding blind research earlier... but what can you expect from Morganic Statistical Analysis?

Yep, don't know if you've already set up turns and whatnot, but it might be noted that Shai-Hulud are in the same area of the world, so timing may be a consideration.

Is it possible that you post up a 'Set in Stone Tablet' for the rules, Qantago? Just to offer final clarification for the previously 'hot issues.'

Thanks, thanks!

	03-02-2002 12:15									#41
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Yes, thanx a bunch Qantaga, you rule!

Could you list the order in which we take turns with our email addresses next to each name?

	03-02-2002 14:11									#42
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That's what you get when you're having a party...missing all the fun on the Apolyton forums

Alright then...
1. 5 players is fine with me and no one else seem to be interested anyway
2. I vote for Blind, but I won't use my VETO, not such a big deal for me
3. Comm's available ONLY after real contact(there's also a line in alpha.txt that determines whether you can contact others in MP prior to having actual contact...why can't we all just turn it off)
4. 50-70% oceans are fine with me, actually I prefer it.

	03-02-2002 19:47									#43
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quote: Originally posted by Shai-Hulud That's what you get when you're having a party...

Shai-Hulud, I didn't get my invitation to your party. It must have been lost in the mail.

	03-02-2002 20:25									#44
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Yeah...what do you know...damn post office!

My email's janne.huttunen@kolumbus.fi

Great work Qantaga, thanks.

	03-02-2002 20:28									#45
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Great! I have all e-mails now.

I have just a couple of last minute tweaks to the map. The first turn should go out within a couple of hours.

	03-02-2002 23:37									#46
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The game has begun!

I have started a new, turn-tracking thread HERE.