06-11-2000 13:48									#1
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Hi,
This is a sugestion for a new unit type: The Army Engineer. Can build Roads, Bridges, Frotifications and Airbases (no Irrigation and Farms) and has the same fighting capabilities as a infantry unit (as Riflemen?). This should be used to help your conquest campaigns.

	06-11-2000 16:25									#2
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How about simplifying the idea even more - allow settlers/engineers to have an upgrade of attack and armour (via the unit workshop or just as a new unit).

By the way, I think having bridges would be too much micromanagement.

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	06-11-2000 17:40									#3
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There is also an another possibility: allow for military units (maybe only for modern ones, I don't know) to build roads, bridges and fortifications (but no railroads), at the speed of a settler unit.

This way, if you want to build quickly, you must risk your engineers. If there is no such a rush, or you don't want to risk, use your military units to build at a slower speed.

	07-11-2000 10:39									#5
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About one and half month ago I've done a few suggestion in this direction. Since I'm not able to use the HTML-mode I'll give you the name of the thread Rivers & Estuaries & bridgebuilding

	07-11-2000 02:50									#6
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But I don't like bridges.

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	07-11-2000 08:10									#7
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Well, nobody says that bridges have to be specifically built. Building roads on rivers should just make bridges. Unless you mean crossing ocean tiles?

	07-11-2000 11:39									#8
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Building bridges across ocean is a bit far-fetched, methinks.

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	08-11-2000 06:26									#9
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Build a bridge, like I suggested many moons before, like the Golden Gate, over one to two (at most) ocean spaces; you must rate ocean depth to do this; with an 'Engineer' upgraded settler or addition to settler.
I.e.
-Settler (Ancient)
-Advanced Settler (Modern)
-Engineer (Modern)

	08-11-2000 19:44									#10
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But a bridge over 1 or 2 squares would still be hundreds of miles long. Pretty unrealistic and it would hurt gameplay unless it is a modern advance.

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	09-11-2000 05:03									#11
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If you increased the size of the map, this would not be a problem.
i.e.: squares="25-50 miles"