26-08-2000 04:17									#1
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Just wondering...when you conquer a city, do you rename it? I tend not to, but that's probably still a habit from the Civ1 days...it would look weird in the replay (4000BC: Zulus found Dnepropetrovsk).

Of course (in case anyone didn't know) you can also rename enemy cities by using "examine city"...it's completely free for spies.

Dr.Oogkloot

	26-08-2000 04:26									#2
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Sometimes I rename a city to mock a particular Civ that has either backstabbed me or given me trouble through the years. Like "DIE Monguls" or "Take this loser" or a variation there of.


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	26-08-2000 04:57									#3
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ahh, the old replay.txt file of Civ I. After my first win on chieftan, I printed out that file and highlighted all the great accomplisments of Gilgamesh of the Sumerians with multicolored highlighter pens I'm surprised they didn't keep some version of that in Civ II, it was fun to read through, and also entertaining and informative to watch it replayed on the map. Learned a few Civ basics watching it. Now you have to keep your own log (OCC style ).

As for renaming cities, I usually don't probably for similar reasons. When I am plowing through AI cities, sometimes I like to go back and see how many of each civ I've taken. Usually what ends up happening is after my initial burst of cities, I capture 10x as many as i found and it all becomes a blur as to which ones were my acutal cities (habit of large map games).

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	26-08-2000 09:51									#4
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I do, on occasion. As anyone knows who has read my thousands of posts, I've been renaming the civs and their cities. So occasionally, when some civ forces me to take time out in my drive to the stars to stomp on a pest, I will rename the city, maintaining some part of the name, but putting some form of linguistic "spin" on from the civ I'm playing.

Much in the same way that the Roman city Eboracum became the Saxon city Eforwic, which eventually shortened down to York.

Jim W

	26-08-2000 11:49									#5
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Yes, when it's important to distinguish your city from the civ you bribed it from eg in OCC16 that was how you got your city. Because you got to play as "Robin Hood" of the Merrymen, it seemed appropriate to rename Orleans, Tonicity, my generic for a new type of civ.

	26-08-2000 22:12									#6
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nahh, I like to leave the old names as a reminder of what I have conquored

	26-08-2000 22:38									#7
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The only ones I rename of a regular basis are the ( ) no name cities of the AI. And occasionally the repeated Issis, or whatever. I didn't know about the rename function working via the spy on an Enemy city. That would be a help sometimes.

Ken

	27-08-2000 06:09									#8
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Does the AI build cities with no name? When? How? Where? Why?

BTW you can also rename enemy cities with diplomats instead of spies but IIRC you lose the diplomat.

	27-08-2000 11:20									#9
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Dr. Oogkloot, et al.:

I *do not* rename cities. In fact, the only time I bother with anything other than standard management of conquered enemy cities is when said enemy has really p*ssed me off.

In that case, I do much more than rename captured cities. I decimate them. I bring in my military and plunder every single square of irrigation, farmland, roads, rails and mines. Then I proceed to starve the city down to level one. Then the pitiful survivors are converted into a "freebie" settler/engineer unit for use on my *own* cities. It doesn't happen often ... but when it does, more than one slave engineer can be found maxing my own cities' potential out.

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	27-08-2000 15:29									#10
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Not really - I'm too busy conquering the world by then.

But when I'm building a city on the World map, and there's no name coming to mind (like the middle of Greenland) and I've already used up Cent. Greenland, I just type in ****ing Cold or Holy ****! or Suck My **** or something like that...

	27-08-2000 22:03									#11
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Sometimes I rename my conquered cities, but mostly I do not because I like to see who I conquered. Zulu, Babylonian, Greek etc.

As a side note: the worst civs you can play against are the
Zulu, Carthaginians, Greeks, Mongols, and Vikings, NEVER Trust them.

	29-08-2000 13:33									#12
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I only rename them if I'm playing on a small map (which isn't very often). On a large map it's easier to keep track of what cities are where if I leave the names as they are.

Tiz

	29-08-2000 19:50									#13
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In multiplay I do to mock the other player, but in single player I just do not bother.

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	29-08-2000 20:19									#14
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I really don't bother renaming in SP or MP most of the time. I'll sometimes put "New" in front of a conquered city if I think of it after a bloody battle or when the AI civ is destroyed.

Now that I think of it, I usually change St. Petersburg to St. Stevensburg in honor of myself.


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	30-08-2000 00:58									#15
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I find it helpful to keep track of:
- which are my cities (not AI's), since sometimes they are listed together, e.g., for trade.
- whether my cities are on a coast.
- which of the four maps my cities are on (ToT fantasy game).

So I use the following convention: every city name ends with a digit (0,1,2,3 -- the map number) followed by "c" if a coastal city, and maybe "L" for a land-locked-lake-coast city.

I suffix conquered cities to follow this convention early in the game; late in the game, I may be sitting pretty and no longer care to bother.

- toby


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	30-08-2000 05:46									#16
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Yeah I renamed one city I just captured "Suck on That" last night in a multiplayer game.

	30-08-2000 09:31									#17
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Ouch! Good one, Horse. I bet you didn't make any new friends with that one.

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	30-08-2000 10:20									#18
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I only rename conquered cities if the city has one of the generic names, such as "Issus". Then, I add a roman numeral to the end to indicate the order in which it joined my empire. So, for example, I would have Issus I, Issus II, Issus III, all the way up to things like Issus V and Dortmund XI. (For an example of this in use, see my game in the hall of fame).

Mark

	30-08-2000 18:16									#19
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This is slightly off-topic, but when editing the list of city names, I accidentally added this city name:

I


It's a great city name for the goblins, or for several other swell-headed civs you could name.

- toby


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	31-08-2000 07:04									#20
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No, and I only wish that the architecture also remained the same.

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	05-09-2000 03:00									#22
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I usually don't rename the provincial cities, but I do rename the capitals to something obscene and insulting. I figure its the best way to show the people who's their new lord and master from now until eternity... by transforming the pride of their civlization into a joke ::insert evil laughter here::
[This message has been edited by Emperor10 (edited September 04, 2000).]

	13-09-2000 01:43									#23
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I'm way too lazy to do that, but i once renamed stutgart in the WW79 scenario (i was the Soviets, allied with america from the beginning and they had taken that city only on europe, so i was going to subvert it, but when i remembered that democratic cities couldn't, i renamed it to "Spy!!!"

	13-09-2000 06:14									#24
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I don't normally (at most a hint as to the original civ), but I know Moker does. I've been losing some to him in a Tribe game, and they all end up with just a single letter each!

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	14-09-2000 15:42									#25
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Using the spy's "investigate city"option, I will usually rename cities I'm planning on conquering BEFORE I take them over. That saves me the trouble later on, and keeps me on track for where I'm campaigning.
I will usually keep the default names for my own civ, and "americanize" or "Egyptize" the names of the cities I take over, allowing me to keep track of where I've conquered.

	22-09-2000 02:17									#26
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Renaming conquered cities is fun for me many times, and also when an enemy ship is offshore from one it is hard to resist a fitting temporary rename.