24-02-2002 23:46									#31
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I miss the Carthaginians.

	26-02-2002 01:56									#32
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i also miss the mongols

	28-02-2002 23:25									#33
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I used to love playing against the mongols. They were ruthless and aggressive opponents.

I also miss the irish because I liked to play them.

	08-03-2002 18:00									#34
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@ Assur: am some disappointed that u don't miss the Assyrians. One of the most importent Civs in History. OK they spoke a language that was 90% equal to Babylonian, for they got the same ancestors. But the similarity isn't more than between the Dutchs and Germans.

So they are whom I mostly miss.

Besides I miss the Hethitians, Phenicans, Nubians, Arabs, Turcs, Khmer, Coreans, the Scandinavians (Vics), Spaniards are a must, Serbs, some black-african Civs like atleast the Mali-Empire, Inca, Maya.

But why not all Civs, shouldn't be that difficult
@Polarkrake: U don't have to choose those. But other player just like them.

	08-03-2002 18:30									#35
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The Vikings! They should have a special unit called berserker with similar features to the Japanese samurai Well, I hope for more civs in the expansion!

	09-03-2002 00:29									#36
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As long as this is a wish list, I have always been offended at the fact that the Republic of Texas has always been ignored.

While only for a short time, the great republic brought us such inumerable inventions as the....uh....well....oh, TEX-MEX! And we fought a long struggle against the oppresive Mexicans for a few years.... and uhhh....well, a Texas nation would just be cool!

	13-03-2002 21:24									#37
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Don't get me wrong. I think that Texas is one of the most beautyfull states of the US. Especialy because it unites very different but nice landscapes.
But history is something different. May be the american settlers felt anyhow oppressed, but not the mexican majority. Oppression started not until independence, when they became secondclass citizens. Texas didn't become independent because of the democratic opinion of a majority but since the technical hegemony of their guns.
But nevertheless I guess after bad times have been passed the "Hispanics" of that origin are glad to be on that side of the border. And today is what counts.
But history was different ,sorry

	15-03-2002 02:49									#38
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I miss Spanish

	15-03-2002 04:17									#39
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I miss the Assyrians and all others, Spain as well.

	20-03-2002 03:26									#40
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Umm... Well Vikings should definitely be there... Or why not just call them Swedes and everyone gets happy! Oh, and the mighty Canadians! Remember my Civ2 mod... Those were the days!
And, umm.. Jamaica!

No, seriously! Vikings should be there, as should the Celts, Spaniards, and some Arabic thingy as well! Also you should rename England to Great Britain to cover the Scots, Welsh and Irish... Maybe we don't need no Celts then...
All the great colonizing nations should be in there, missing is; Spain, Portugal and The Netherlands! And maybe some other I couldn't think of right now...
Oh, and also as stated before in another post or two Mongols!! They were kinda cute in Civ2... And a whola heck a lot of African and South American tribes!!!

That's my two cents....

	26-03-2002 01:06									#41
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quote: Originally posted by Polarkraken Still, you can have too many. Don't make the mistake of Call to Power (not saying their bad or anything, but do Jamacians, Cubans, Welsh, and Turks really deserve to be in the same catagory as Rome, Greece, China, France, etc?)

Why shouldn't they? It's just a game, not the ultimate measuring stick of civilization. And there can NEVER, EVER be too many choices of who to play as. Who cares if some of them end up being carbon copies? And who cares if the game becomes unbalanced? You'd be able to pick all these things anyway.

	28-03-2002 02:11									#42
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I miss mongols and spanish.

	28-03-2002 10:35									#43
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yep, the good ol'mongols and spanish.

	28-03-2002 11:26									#44
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Assyrians, Spanish, Turks

Maybe: Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Dutch, Sumerians, Mongols, Arabs....

	30-03-2002 22:42									#45
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I want my Vikings back because I'm of Norwegian decent. (go Norskies!!!) If they are included in an expansion pack I would want them to have these attributes

Leader: Leif Ericksson
Bonuses: Expansionist and Comercial
UU: Longboat (trireme that can go on sea and can carry 1 more unit)
Build Often: Naval, Settlers, Trade, Culture
Agression level: 4 (1-5)
Major cities: Trondhiem, Stockholm, Reykjavik, Oslo. Uppsala, Odense, Copenhagen, Bergen, Lillihamer .

	31-03-2002 00:06									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Beren Assyrians, Spanish, Turks Maybe: Phoenicians, Carthaginians, Dutch, Sumerians, Mongols, Arabs....

Arabs and Phoenicians should absolutely be included, Carthaginians shouldn't be because they actually were Phoenician.

	31-03-2002 13:02									#47
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Include them or not, that may be....
I would just like to play them sometimes.

	31-03-2002 17:10									#48
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As you can see from the topped threads, we already had a democratic election for the next batch of 16.

This leaves the following civs to be wished for:

Nice, the Hospitaliers, the Vatican, Madurodam, Harlem, the Mohicans, the Illuminati, and finally ... Microsoft.

	07-04-2002 22:50									#49
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Yeh, I also miss the Vikings. But I wouldn't make their special unit a ship (for obvious gameplay reasons). Rather, I would make it a 4/1/1 swordman who can make amphibious assaults.

	16-04-2002 17:12									#50
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those were all great civillisation, in addition to yours, you forgot the pigmees (little african dudes, special unit: mugsy bogues), the smurfs, swuiss (neutral pussies), and the looney tunes (special unit elmer fudd who replaces musketmen)

	16-04-2002 17:22									#51
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the dutch should be able to rule civ3's mid games as they did in real-time, the dutch's golden age (17th century) were a time of world domination. They controled the seas, got themselves some nice Islands with enough spices and other luxeries to trade themselves to extreme wealth. the netherlands deserve a place in this game, because such a small country had been able to make such a difference i this world for allmost 100 turns.

Holland rules the waves, voor het vaderland: voorwaarts en schrijn geen piëteit voor de vijand!!!

	17-04-2002 13:14									#52
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quote: you forgot the pigmees (little african dudes, special unit: mugsy bogues),'

So what does little Mugsy do? Dribble his enemies into oblivion??
Oh and one more thing: Go Dutch!

	20-04-2002 15:04									#53
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Wouldn't the Arabs be called Saracens if Saladin was the leader?

	20-04-2002 18:15									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Centauri18 Wouldn't the Arabs be called Saracens if Saladin was the leader?

For the Arabs things like this stay a problem. First it was just Arabia, then there was the Fatamid caliphate, (pherhaps something after that) then the Mameluke's caliphate.
My objections to Saracens is that the game will be too Age-of-Kingsy, the name does not refer to the current Arab situation and my dictionary refers to it as being 'old name for Arabs in Spain and northwest Africa.'

	22-04-2002 23:40									#55
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quote: Originally posted by Dr. Stiby quote: you forgot the pigmees (little african dudes, special unit: mugsy bogues),' So what does little Mugsy do? Dribble his enemies into oblivion?? Oh and one more thing: Go Dutch!

So why do you guys always tear up my peaceful city?

AJ

PS: Nederland beleefde zijn Gouden Eeuw in grote mate dankzij de massale immigratie van Vlamingen en vooral Antwerpenaars na de Val van Antwerpen (1585). Dus een bedankje mag er wel af, niet?

PPS: op forum general zou je eens moeten kijken naar de thread van Immortal Wombat over CIV4 tech three --> dat wordt daar stilletjes aan the place to be voor ons

	22-04-2002 23:43									#56
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Oh yes, I'm not that serious and demanding about it, mind you ,

but I kind of miss

the FLEMISH

Anyone?

AJ

	04-05-2002 08:42									#57
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Simply another point of fact.
Yes the British did have the largest empire in terms of area
Yes the Mongols did have the largest empire in terms of contiguous land, but the mongols could capture one city and gain 10 square miles of terrain, the Romans, while never having the size of the Mongol empire, did have MANY more people under their control.

OR

	05-05-2002 04:29									#58
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I miss the Mongols, Celts, and Carthaginians.

The game isn't the same without the militaristic hordes of Mongols. I always liked playing as the Celts and Carthaginians. They were quite unique and enjoyable civs, although they were not really big time historical civs like the Romans or the Chinese.

	05-05-2002 09:19									#59
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Spanish and Mongols.

	12-05-2002 02:35									#60
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The Vikings, Spanish and Mongols are sorely missed.
For the Mongols were always the unstoppable civ that would always stab you in the back, but who expanded much faster than the Russians who, too had the same mentality.

The Vikings were an interesting civ for ferocity, but on earth maps, never lasted long because of their bad positiong.

The Spanish were one of the most interesting countries to play as. They always seemed to receive extra settlers (that may just be me) but I also loved colonizing America with the Spanish and making cities wiht names such as Ciudad Juarez, Mexico City, etc.



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PS. I never really liked the celts
and the carthaginians seemed useless but were fun.
I hated the sioux, but they were interesting, for the same reason as the mongols