06-02-2002 11:22									#61
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More correct it will be 2 and a half. Romanian (native), English (pretty good) and some rusty French.

	06-02-2002 11:53									#62
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I speak english of course, and i get get by rather well in korean, though not at a highly educated level (it's coming little by little, once i actually MOVE to korea, i should get much better very quickly, i'd imagine) as well as smatterings of german, french, arabic and spanish. I only counted myself as bilingual though, i could just barely get with what little i remember of german, and not at all with french or arabic or spanish.

	06-02-2002 11:57									#63
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quote: I'm not sure about chinese and other eastern languages and their histories, and that is why i excluded them. They may have changed a great deal as well, even if it was only mixing in a bit of mongolian. The chinese and japanese and others didn't have a great deal a cultural assimilation IIRC

From what little i know (according to my korean teachers)
Korean has ALOT of chinese vocabulary (something like 70%) but it's all pronounced just slightly different . . . but as far as the grammar and structure of the language goes, they are completely unrelated. Actually (again, this is according to my PhD in linguistics korean teacher, he speaks 12 languages fluently) Korean(s) actually came from the mongol's, who used to live much farther west, thus alot of the grammar and structure of the language is much closer to Finnish.

As far as japanese, i really couldn't say, other than the fact that they share some chinese vocab as well, but not as much.

	06-02-2002 12:30									#64
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I have studied several languages, and some of them I actually was able to communicate in fairly easily, though through lack of use I am pretty pathetic in most of them now.

English - (my native language)

Japanese - (we lived there for 6 years when I was a kid, and I spoke as much Japanese as English until I went to school)

French - I took this in school, but the instruction was as poor as my work habits. Still, it helped me to get around when I was in France, and didn't hurt my verbal scores on my college entrance exams.

Mandarin Chinese - I took about two years of this in college, and was good at it. I haven't used it at all though, and it occupies a dusty corner toward the back of my mind.

Russian - I was pretty good at Russian. I studied at the Defense Language Institute in Monterey California, worked as a Russian Linguist for the Army for a couple of years, and then took another year at the University when I got out. Disuse has sapped my abilities, but I was surprised when I had to translate for my girlfriend with one of her Russian clients that a lot of it came back fairly quickly.

	06-02-2002 16:48									#65
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does sign language count?

I often speak cave man after many beers.

	06-02-2002 17:06									#66
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Native language: Bavarian (and it is a destinct language; you won't understand much no matter how good your standard german is)

School: standard german, english, latin (passive), french (rusty)

English, latin and french make for acceptable passive knowledge of most romance languages; eg simple new articles or legal texts in spanish and italian (italian would be simple if it weren't for all the nella and della... ).

Started spanish and esparanto once, but didn't follow through.


Natan:

How about writing a bit of jiddisch ?

	06-02-2002 17:49									#67
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German and English
I mean yeah I could count French, but for that it would have to be a little better

	06-02-2002 17:56									#68
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English is my mother tongue, and I learned French, and Hebrew (if I can still remember any of it). I guess I could have counted Latin, but Latin is dead.

	06-02-2002 19:17									#69
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All this talk of mother tongues. It's disgusting, I tell you, disgusting!

Well I can speak English well, obviously. A bit of French, and some really ridiculous things in German. I can ask for the bill in Greek, say some basic things in Turkish like 'Hello', 'Yes' and 'The Young Man Is Not A Policeman'

That is it I am afraid. Unless our more xenophobic contingent, I am not proud of my lack of linguistic ability, nor do I adapt to new languages particularly readily.

	06-02-2002 20:34									#70
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Well, ya know what they say - one who knows three languages is trilingual, one who knows two languages is bilingual, and one who knows one language is American

I know Finnish, Swedish and English, although I wish I didn't know Swedish. Booya!

	06-02-2002 20:46									#71
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Greek, english and french.

I'd speak some German too if I didn't skip class every other day so I could see my girlfriend early.

Why must I be a teenager in love

I had taken too much on: university, work, girlfriend and German.

Something had to give and it was the German class.

The only thing I remeber is «kleine» and «naturlich» «eins, zwai, drei» (I propably horribly mispelled them)


edit: BTW naturlich was a very useful word. In everything the teacher would ask me (and of course I didn't understand a thing) I would always reply (in a very confident tone): «Naturlich». I think I had made her crazy by the end of the year. (first time I was a «bad boy»

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In order of fluency:

1. Finnish - naturally.
2. English - hmmm... naturally?
3. Swedish - Jag hatar min svensklärare...
4. German - Ich bin laden (I am loaded)
5. French - not much, but enough to list it.
6. Latin - Sic transit gloria mundi.
7. Italian - but just a few phrases. Did take a course on it, but it was taught by my Swedish teacher

I would say that I speak four languages, and know fairly two more.

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English of course.
Enough French and German to get myself into trouble.
I once used the wrong German pronoun and propositioned a hotel desk clerk. But she was a very good looking fraulein
Working on Mandarin.
Anybody up for a Zhongwen thread in time for the New Year?

	06-02-2002 21:55									#74
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I am
though i don't have a program that can type Chinese at this point.

	06-02-2002 22:12									#75
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Spanish --- my language
German
English ---- but some people in these forums would disagree with that

And a little French and Dutch.

	07-02-2002 00:40									#76
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I speak Pig Latin, Double Dutch, Pigeon English, Bork Bork Bork, and a few others.

	07-02-2002 01:31									#77
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I speak French, German, English, Finnish and VERY bad swedish.

	07-02-2002 01:38									#78
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English/French pretty fluently. Spanish so-so. German bad.

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I also know a bit of Welsh, but not much.

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quote: Originally posted by Roland How about writing a bit of jiddisch ?

Technically speaking, it's always written in hebrew characters, the pronounciation (and actually, the spelling of many words) of which varied from region to region. But I'll try:

Warsaw dialect:

Yakh libe tzu redn yiddish, ober es iz nisht mein mame-loshn.

Lodz dialect:
kh'rede yiddish mit mein zede, er iz fun Lodz. Es iz a mikhaye far im tzu redn yiddish mit mir.

Galitzyaner dialect:
Vus mokhstu haint in di fri? Ikh gehe tzu di shul oon davenen mit di yidn. S'gibt in di shul a yid fun Oscweim, in galitziye. Er zogt dos ikh rede litvish.

Lithuanian dialect (litvish):
Mein tates zede var fun Zhlobin in lite, ober er var nit kain litvak. Zain shtet hot a sakh khosidim gehobt, oon er hot zain gefilte-fish mit tzuker oon nit mit kein pfefer gekokht. Fun vu komt daine mishpoche?

	07-02-2002 04:16									#81
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I know english

I was forced to take some language in highschool and college

highschool only offered spanish, I rebelled and went and took french at a community college (took care of 2 birds with one stone)

at the end of that I would say I could comunicate at a basic level ( well read and write on a basic level, my speech is always weak and people have a hard time understanding my english)

in the almost 4 years since then my speech is even worse for the little bit I remember and my memory is spotty

so I guess I do not take to languages very well

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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin I also know a bit of Welsh, but not much.

Croeso y Gymru

	07-02-2002 05:16									#83
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can someone tell me what you have done to the irish?

they do have a language of their own have they not?

why do they speak english?

i asked an irish girl once why don;t you kick the english language out

and after she pretended to kcik the air and repeat after me «kick it out yeah!» she lowered the head and with a shy voice she told me «because we need the trade»


what's up with that?

really why do they not sdpeak irish?

and she was a cute irish girl too


IRELAND IRA FOR EVER (yup as i said i have indlulged a bit in red wine )

	07-02-2002 05:23									#84
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 IRELAND IRA FOR EVER (yup as i said i have indlulged a bit in red wine )

Yes, well remember that this organisation has killed more civilians than the 11th Sept. incident did

And yes, there is an Irish language (Gaelic) but it is rarely spoken.

	07-02-2002 05:26									#85
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quote: Originally posted by Provost Harrison Yes, well remember that this organisation has killed more civilians than the 11th Sept. incident did

sorry I had refcently seen that movie about what was his name with julia roberts about the originis of IRA it was a hollywood movie so I guess it was like the enigma movie

quote: And yes, there is an Irish language (Gaelic) but it is rarely spoken.

why?

	07-02-2002 05:31									#86
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Well it's like any of these ancient gaelic class of languages, they were as good as dead but some kind of pride in heritage seems to have resurrected them. Welsh was almost dead in Wales too. I find it almost ironic that the new wave of Welsh independence is actually a result of heritage preservation by a British government Same in Ireland. If you go down the pub, no one will be speaking Gaelic (except in some really remote backwaters). Same in most of Wales, everyone speaks English. England has been dominant in the British Isles for many, many centuries and it shows.

	07-02-2002 05:40									#87
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well it's terrible not to have your own language


did i mention she was very cute?

	07-02-2002 05:43									#88
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 well it's terrible not to have your own language

Not really, it's only words and speech. And just think, you could have been speaking Turkish by now

	07-02-2002 05:46									#89
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turkish?

i'd rather die

what the feck is turkey anyway?

LIBERTY OR DEATH (revolution logo)


it was liberty



and it ain't over yet my dear

	07-02-2002 05:49									#90
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or are you implying britain had anything to do with Greece being freed?


well if your name isn;t Lord Byron Mr. Penguinator I doubt you can claim anything