06-02-2002 05:06									#1
	Will our suggestions/complaints/requests be put in upcoming patches? Get a bigger avatar today!

See above.

	06-02-2002 05:12									#2
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almost certainly not - your chances are improved if your suggestions are in a post started by a firaxis bod or has a reply by a firaxis bod. The more controversial and complex the suggestion the less likely - in fact if it isnt a small tweak then probability is about as much as a tank being killed by a longbowman. Oh wait, that's a little high..

	06-02-2002 05:28									#3
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I'd say expansion pack is more likely to contain larger changes. Patches are just that - patches, only really likely to fix bugs and contain gameplay tweaks to adjust values of what is already there.

	06-02-2002 05:52									#4
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Patches fix whatever is in the game. If you have a suggestion put it in the thread near the top of the thread list.

	06-02-2002 06:13									#5
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The question is not whether our suggestions will be in the next patch. The question is whether there IS a next patch.

	06-02-2002 07:09									#6
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I'll bet most of our complaints will be in the next patch

I think the game as Firaxis made it is done. What I hope they DO deliver is a kick-ass editor. Things I want to do with it:

Tweak what leaders can and can't do (specifically how many shields they can deliver to a city, as opposed to just immediately building ANYTHING - a bit to powerful IMO).

Add some more governments of course, and more varied specialists. Government-specific specialists would be nice. Also I want to make some specialists available only after a certain tech is discovered.

Starting positions please. And add units, edit diplomatic status, etc. ENABLE US TO CREATE SCENARIOS FIRST AND FOREMOST PLSKTHXBYE.

One small problem I've run into when editing is the limits the editor places on what a unit can do. If I want Aegis Cruisers to be able to move 50 tiles in one turn I should be able to.

One change I would like to see to the game:
Remove cruise missiles. They're useless and have been replaced by naval bombard anyway. However naval bombard DOES have a very limited range so this is what I propose (not that it matters):
Some naval units should have two different bombard attacks. One that is very powerful but has a limited range - this corresponds to shore bombardment which has already been implemented. The second bombard attack has much greater range but less effectiveness and perhaps costs a few gold to accomplish or something like that. You effectively trade bombard strength for range. If this were implemented cruise missiles would become redundant and could be removed. (Expect a mod from me sometime soon that accomplishes this, unless Firaxis does it first).


Also, I want a little more of this, and plenty of that - ALL of this, none of that, and f*cking plenty of that. Oh and the demands will all change tomorrow, so f*cking stay awake.

	06-02-2002 08:06									#7
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Not many of them (proportionally). Everyone has their own different views as to what needs to be changed.

They will stick with the strategic level of play, tactical combatants be d**ned, and spruce up the Editor a bunch so everyone can have their own game. That will create a true "Tower of Babel" of Civ3. They'll plug a few more (perceived) holes.

	06-02-2002 12:53									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Dida The question is whether there IS a next patch.

there WILL be a patch


in fact, since civ3 is selling well(still in the top 10 after 3 months), an expansion pack looks certain. which means that firaxis will keep on making patches at least until the release of the expansion...

	06-02-2002 14:15									#9
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quote: Originally posted by MarkG there WILL be a patch in fact, since civ3 is selling well(still in the top 10 after 3 months), an expansion pack looks certain. which means that firaxis will keep on making patches at least until the release of the expansion...

Mark - no offense, and slap me if I'm being an idiot here, but do you have this on any sort of good authority from Firaxis?

I mean, it totally makes sense, and I WANNA believe it... but, ya know... there's that cynical little guy in the red suit hovering over my left shoulder whispering to me, "Don't believe him! He's just f***ing with you, man... " (this visual is a lot funnier if you imagine he's saying this in a tone of voice akin to one of the members of the Lollipop Guild)

	06-02-2002 14:43									#10
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quote: Originally posted by FNBrown Mark - no offense, and slap me if I'm being an idiot here, but do you have this on any sort of good authority from Firaxis?

i didnt have to in order to know it, but i do

quote: I mean, it totally makes sense

indeed, it's apparent by all the statements by firaxians on this forum

	06-02-2002 22:21									#11
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I hope there will be another (or more) patches to the game as well. After all, I spent big $$$$ on this thing, and hope to get more out of it.
And, why did they put in those stupid CD-protection **** on the last patch? I gotta go play Civ3 on my mom's PC, cux it will not run from my CD-RW. WTF!!!