14-02-2002 08:18									#1
	Need Alien Crossfire Support Apolyton

I love Alpha Centauri, but like the rest of the net, I can't find it anywhere except Ebay for $50. Is anyone willing to either sell an old copy, burn me a copy in trade for something, or even share it on Morpheus? Does anyone have any other suggestions about getting it? Thanks.

	14-02-2002 08:44									#2
	Support Apolyton

It's hard to believe that Firaxis pulled a game that people are willing to pay so much for online. If they made a downloadable version and charged $25 for it, people would be waiting in line to give them money. Have a PDF version of the manual included in the package. It would hardly cost them anything.

Hey Firaxis... LET US GIVE YOU OUR MONEY. We have it... we want to give it to you... so let us send you our money.

	14-02-2002 09:00									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

Is there any way to cobble it together from the Alpha Centauri and the Crossfire Demo? I know the Demo has a limit, but maybe with the exe from the full version and a few graphic files...

	14-02-2002 09:08									#4
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EA controls the production and distribution of smac-x, all Firaxis gets is royalties.

	14-02-2002 21:50									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Have you looked at other recent threads on this same subject, such as this ? It has several leads.

	15-02-2002 07:53									#6
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Yeah, it's hard to believe that EA flooded the channels with the budget jewel case edition of SMAC, but didn't toss in Alien Crossfire. I've never seen the contents of the Planetary Pack, but I'd almost wager money that it's all on one CD. Is that the case?

Now I see that SMAC is in a big EA shovelware collection... still without Alien Crossfire. *sigh*

	15-02-2002 11:52									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

You'd win that bet. All on one CD, with the proper hardcopy manuals + Prima's (rather worthless) strategy guide.

	18-02-2002 23:29									#8
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

i got my SMAC for £8 (bout $15)


andyman69@thefreeinternet.co.uk

and we can try an sort sumthin out if you want.


EDIT: i just realised you may be wantin alien corssfire, and that i dont hav and am looking for myself - not that i know what it actuall is

	20-02-2002 21:05									#9
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

quote: t's hard to believe that Firaxis pulled a game that people are willing to pay so much

Couldn't agree more. They had pulled the game off the market just when I was understanding the intricacies of original SMAC. I still keep my eyes around in the bargain bins of the big box stores in the vain hope I will find a copy...*sigh*

Perhaps some serious thought should be given into generating an online petition for Firaxis and EA.

Dave

	24-02-2002 05:09									#10
	Draft it and I'll sign it! Suffering from ads?

quote: Originally posted by DetroitDave Perhaps some serious thought should be given into generating an online petition for Firaxis and EA.

Maybe Firaxis could get its products away from EA and go with a distributor that will actually distribute them since there are so many people who still want them. And include the two separate bound manuals, the two Tech Tree wall charts, and the Map of Planet poster.

	24-02-2002 05:42									#11
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

I finally got a copy of AC today from Software First in England. They apparently are willing to send software overseas, even though others have stated that it is not legal.

	24-02-2002 06:53									#12
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

It is legal. There is nothing in GB against it.

http://www.softwarefirst.com/Produc...WebRef=10081089

Alpha Centuri Alien Crossfire IBM £4.99
Ea Product Code : 10081089

(This item is available for immediate despatch)

	24-02-2002 06:58									#13
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola EA controls the production and distribution of smac-x, all Firaxis gets is royalties.

It's a sample again (as so much other made same mistakes) that good programmer make bad legal contracts and/or have bad solicitors and at last they had loosen their own product or an unclear legal situation.

	28-02-2002 18:56									#14
	Remove this text

I have a question on software compatibility. Will software from the UK work in the US, or are there differences? My guess is no, but before getting AC from SoftwareFirst I'd like to make sure!

Anyone have any info on this novice question?

Hydro

	28-02-2002 19:20									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Hydro I have a question on software compatibility. Will software from the UK work in the US, or are there differences?

Sure. All windows language versions are compatible. You can take a French or a German or a UK version, no problem. You also can later copy the language files of one over an other language. I.e. you buy a German version and get later the UK language files, simply copy they. Then you have the UK version.
The language files are here:
http://alpha-centauri-stuff.cjb.net/

	28-02-2002 19:24									#16
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

There is no difference that I can determine. I also got my software from softwarefirst. Everything (including the crack) works fine for my computer. They shipped it out really fast for an overseas transaction. I got it in about a week and a half.

A previous post mentioned that it was legal in GB. I didn't mean that there were laws against exporting the software. What I meant is that usually software distribution companies have contracts that limit the distribution of software to different regions. For example, the DVD regions are an additional method of controlling that. That's why companies like the european Amazon.com will only ship to specific contries...because 99% of the software they are selling have contractual restrictions.

On one other note, I saw on a post of a different thread (I think it was on this site) that using the crack is OK if you own the game. If you are in the US, this is not true. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act prohibits anyone from circumventing any form of copy protection. Since the SafeCD stuff on Alien Crossfire is copy protection, it is technically illegal in the US. (Not that it will stop me from cracking it). The music and software companies are lobbying the US congress now to enact legislation that would make it a crime to create a "digital system" without putting some sort of copy protection on it.

	28-02-2002 21:10									#17
	Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by A previous post mentioned that it was legal in GB. I didn't mean that there were laws against exporting the software. What I meant is that usually software distribution companies have contracts that limit the distribution of software to different regions

Right, but that is not a problem of the customer. That is only a civil law contract between the distributors, and if one may made no clear rules or doesn't watch the rules carefully or the other has such a good position as big reseller to the distriburor that the distributor will say nothing in fact, then also nothing happens.
In any way, the customer (user) never has to watch such. It's only a problem of the sales company.

	01-03-2002 09:33									#18
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

I tried SoftwareFirst, but the site bombed on me when I got to step 3 (the $$ part). I got some funky error (it was ASCII-numeric gibberish, so I don't recall the text) on a cable and later on a dial up connection. I'd hate to have to call them in the UK, since that would likely cost as much as the AC!

Any advice?

	01-03-2002 10:04									#19
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Try it again. From here it works fine. Little slow, but that's all.

	01-03-2002 19:03									#20
	Remove this text

I've tried 4 times, and each has failed. I e-mailed the company for advice. Until then I'll sit tight.

Thanks.

	01-03-2002 19:11									#21
	try it here Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

and switch on activeX and javascript.
Simply click this line:
http://www.softwarefirst.com/Produc...WebRef=10081089
or use the advanced search right above and look for "PC" and "Alien Crossfire"
or copy paste
"www.softwarefirst.com/Product.asp?WebRef=10081089"

Last edited by Dreifels on 01-03-2002 at 19:17

	07-03-2002 23:25									#22
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I FINALLY got my web order to work after three e-mail chats with SoftwareFirst's web support, since they had no idea why it wasn't working. They even thanked me for helping them debug their system.

Alien Crossfire was a bargain at about $7 US. Shipping was a tad pricey, though, from the UK. It should arrive in 7-12 days.

Thanks for the help!

Hydro

	08-03-2002 02:35									#23
	Tired of ads?

Don't worry, it will be worth the wait. I have had Alien Crossfire for almost a month, and I love it. It's just more of the good stuff I love from Alpha Centauri.

	08-03-2002 03:14									#24
	Got spare money?

I've had Alien Crossfire since it came out. I am buying another 2 copies for a backup and as a gift to a friend (who I infected with AC - hehehehe). My bad laptop almost munched my original Alien Crossfire disk, and I was barely able to resurrect it by one of those Disk Doctor doohickeys.

Hydro

	08-03-2002 03:24									#25
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Why not make a backup copy with a CDr? The latest CloneCD copied mine. The copy works without the cd crack, also.

	08-03-2002 03:33									#26
	Got spare money?

quote: Originally posted by Lee Johnson Yeah, it's hard to believe that EA flooded the channels with the budget jewel case edition of SMAC, but didn't toss in Alien Crossfire. I've never seen the contents of the Planetary Pack, but I'd almost wager money that it's all on one CD. Is that the case? *

Nope, It was two separte regular boxes wrapped up together in plastic.

	08-03-2002 04:06									#27
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

Check out this thread at CGN. I've found a source for SMAX that is still selling.

http://www.civgaming.net/forums/sho...s=&threadid=837

	08-03-2002 09:53									#28
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by NorthSwordsman Check out this thread at CGN. I've found a source for SMAX that is still selling. http://www.civgaming.net/forums/sho...s=&threadid=837

Hey, that'ts nothing other than a refer to
http://www.softwarefirst.com/Produc...WebRef=10081089
and if you read this trhead here little more above, you see that just that source already was reported:
use the advanced search right above and look for "PC" and "Alien Crossfire" or copy paste
"www.softwarefirst.com/Product.asp?WebRef=10081089"

	08-03-2002 10:07									#29
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

Well, excuse me. I did not read the above posts before posting.

	09-03-2002 00:02									#30
	Re: try it here Tired of ads?

quote: Originally posted by Dreifels and switch on activeX and javascript. Simply click this line: http://www.softwarefirst.com/Produc...WebRef=10081089 or use the advanced search right above and look for "PC" and "Alien Crossfire" or copy paste "www.softwarefirst.com/Product.asp?WebRef=10081089"

After a few weeks of looking, I could not get a copy of SMAX in e-bay, so I try this place. They shiped form UK to Canada (regular airmail) in less than 2 weeks, for about $20 (canadian) total. Thanks for the tip!