15-02-2002 05:24									#1
	Cannot start a game with v1.17f installed Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I just installed v1.17f and can no longer play the game. I can get to the initial screen, but nothing happens when I try to start a new game, and I get error messages if I try to load a save or scenario. I'm running XP on a PIII 1.0 gHz with 512 RAM and had no problems running v1.16f through today. Any suggestions?

	15-02-2002 05:34									#2
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I have the same problems... I am running XP on a 1.5Ghz P4. My scenarios don't work also. Say version 3.00 no longer supported!

	15-02-2002 05:37									#3
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Must be another XP problem.. just like before

	15-02-2002 05:38									#4
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I had the same problem - problem went away when I reverted to the original civmod.bic file from my modded file.

	15-02-2002 05:46									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Unconquered I have the same problems... I am running XP on a 1.5Ghz P4. My scenarios don't work also. Say version 3.00 no longer supported!

A newer version of the editor was included in the patch by mistake. Version 1.17f can't handle BIC files saved by this editor. Jeff sent an updated editor for version 1.17f to MarkG. This editor is slightly newer than the one that was supposed to be released with the 1.17f patch (and includes improved river support and improved undo/redo; neither of which was in the readme). If it's not available for download yet at Apolyton you can get it at CivFanatics. I don't think it's on the Infogrames ftp site yet but it will be put up asap.

	15-02-2002 06:19									#6
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Thanks, but could you explain this a little better? I uninstalled Civ3, reinstalled it and aplied the patch. It worked. However, once I changed I changed the color of France in Eedit, it worked no longer (even after undoing the change). I've DLed the new editor, still no game.

	15-02-2002 06:42									#7
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quote: Originally posted by RickBlaine Thanks, but could you explain this a little better? I uninstalled Civ3, reinstalled it and aplied the patch. It worked. However, once I changed I changed the color of France in Eedit, it worked no longer (even after undoing the change). I've DLed the new editor, still no game.

The problem is that the default rules file has been replaced. Delete it, reinstall the patch THEN change the editor as well. All should be well then!

	15-02-2002 06:43									#8
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I tried to uninstall again, but the uninstall program would not work. After manually uninstalling, I now cannot install the game from the CD. I am thoroughly disgusted.

	15-02-2002 07:38									#9
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quote: Originally posted by RickBlaine Thanks, but could you explain this a little better? I uninstalled Civ3, reinstalled it and aplied the patch. It worked. However, once I changed I changed the color of France in Eedit, it worked no longer (even after undoing the change). I've DLed the new editor, still no game.

There was a problem with the editor that was included with the patch. You just need to get the updated editor. The rest of the patch is fine.

Any BIC files you saved with the problematic editor will not work in this version.

quote: After manually uninstalling, I now cannot install the game from the CD.

Do you mean you deleted the files/folders? What happens when you try to install?

If you do manage to get it installed again:
1) Install the game
2) Install v1.17f patch
3) Get the updated editor

	15-02-2002 08:22									#10
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After reading all this, I am tempted to leave well enough alone!

I will wait before installing any new patch.

	15-02-2002 08:45									#11
	v1.18f? Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Oh, this means they're still working on a new version after this! Great!

	15-02-2002 10:13									#12
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I went through the same hassle of updating, using the Editor (oops!) and not being able to open my saved game or start a new game. So I uninstalled, reinstalled and updated directly to 1.17f. Ran the game and I was still at version 1.07f, the original. Had to run the updater a 2nd time for it to take (similar to how the updater to 1.16f worked).

	15-02-2002 12:20									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Unconquered Must be another XP problem.. just like before

NOT! My Windows XP runs Civ3 just fine, always has (good thing too, because my Windows machine is literally JUST for Civ3 (and downloading updates)).

HP Pavillion 7935

	15-02-2002 20:01									#14
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I deleted the folder with Civ3 in it. When I try to reinstall, the splash screen comes up with the option to play Civ3 as if it were installed (which, of course, does not work). Choosing reinstall brings up a dialogue box asking if I want to delete all elements of this application. Clicking OK brings up the uninstall wizard; after the progress bar goes to 1%, a dialogue box comes up stating that maintenance has been completed on Civilization III. If I bring up the uninstall/add program wizard, it shows I have an installed program named Civilization III of 1.17 MB, although I have been unable to find such files anywhere. Attempting to delete this program again brings up same two dialogue boxes as when trying to reinstall the game from the CD, and it never deletes. Is there anything I can do to get the game to reinstall?

BTW, I freely admit that I'm not nearly as computer literate as most people on this board, so I may not always understand what seems simple enough for most of you. When I DLed the new editor, I copied it into my Civ3 folder (which still existed at that point), overwriting the existing editors. Was this correct? In any event, I could not start a new game after doing this. It was in response to this that I tried to uninstall.

I'm not too upset ATM--I spent a long, enjoyable evening with Disciples II, a pretty good TBS game that is broadly similar to the HoMM series, though with many different aspects and very nice graphics and atmosphere. It fills the time nicely until HoMM IV comes out next month.

	15-02-2002 20:08									#15
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go to start --> run, type 'regedit', enter --> edit --> find 'civ'

delete any references to civ3
i dont know if itll work but it should

	15-02-2002 20:27									#16
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Yes, it sounds like you need to edit your registry entry for civ. However, this can truly mess up your system if not done properly.
Be careful.

-FMK.

	16-02-2002 03:55									#17
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Thanks for the suggestions. I've tried them, but they did not help, the situation is still exactly as I described above. Right now, Civ is a $50 coaster. Does anyone hae any suggestions?

	17-02-2002 21:27									#18
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Maybe the registry entries created when the game installs are not being created? Try running some kind of registry monitoring program ( I think Norton Utilities one included ) to see if any registry changes are being made. If they are not, there is your problem! Maybe someone can run this while installing the game and post those so you can import them manually? Just a thought. =)