18-02-2002 13:36									#31
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And heres a map. I think that the states and territories are correct for April 1861, bar the addition of West Virginia.

The thick black lines show the land nominally owned by the main powers. However, it is the actual colour that shows whether said land is occupied by that power or by Indians.

As you can see, Mexico has annexed all of Texas that was taken away in the Mexican-American war during 1846.

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	18-02-2002 13:47									#32
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So guys, you really think I like to be the tech laggard??

Well, OK, I got used to it, so why not...

Can't you hear the drums?? The braves are already on the "war trail" (how do you say that in english??).

So everybody, get ready for some tech begging coming from Cyrion (but I really hope I can have a little bit more influence in this game...).

	18-02-2002 13:49									#33
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LOL winterfritz you and your maps!

	18-02-2002 13:58									#34
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Great to have you with us Cyrion! This is it: the AoW PBEM goes to north america

quote: Originally posted by Soundwave LOL winterfritz you and your maps!

Every PBEM needs a good map, IMHO

	18-02-2002 18:57									#35
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quote: Originally posted by winterfritz Anzac, are you sure you didn't start this game on Diety? An awful lot of my cities went into disorder for Prince difficulty. Then again, maybe the Mexicans just don't like me

What level of difficulty should I have chosen? I think I did choose diety, I think I should have asked. So what should it be?

	18-02-2002 20:58									#36
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Should be Prince level.

	18-02-2002 21:23									#37
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I think we should start again at Prince before it's too late (i.e. before too many turns have been played...)

Of course, Soundwave might complain because he wants to play now

	18-02-2002 23:20									#38
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HEY!! I'm not impatent i'm just always excited and on a sujar high hehehe

	19-02-2002 00:57									#39
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I'll restart on prince. Post it in a few minutes.

	19-02-2002 04:13									#40
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A little more than a few Here's the save on prince. Same as before

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	19-02-2002 06:39									#41
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Nothing much happened

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	19-02-2002 12:03									#42
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Same as before, but more happy Mexicans this time.

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	20-02-2002 12:12									#43
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*cough* its El ' its your turn

then mine right??

	20-02-2002 13:30									#44
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Heres the player list, with Cyrion added.

Confederates - The ANZAC - theanzac@optonline.com
Border States - AI
French/Spanish - Case - nick_dowling@hotmail.com
Mexicans - winterfritz - winterfritz_21@yahoo.com
United States - El Awrence - m_carreras@hotmail.com
English - Soundwave- seanie_babes@hotmail.com
Indians - Cyrion - vfrache@hotmail.com

	20-02-2002 17:46									#45
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The great chief Mad Cow was really pleased to learn that some of the numerous White Skins to the south and the east were willing to teach some science to the indian warriors!!!

But for the present, the braves are interested in nothing except : Nomadism, Chieftain, Banditry and Gunpowder!!!

So, please, don't give me anything except one of those as it would be hinder my much needed development out of despotism (not to seem ungrateful towards those willing to help me, but as I start in Anarchy and only have Despotism at my disposal for now, I need to channel my science towards Chieftain!! So please, don't slow me through the diplo window...).

After Chieftain has been reached, of course, the braves will be glad to learn everything needed to develop peacefully under the sky...

Mad Cow has spoken

	21-02-2002 00:08									#46
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*cough* *cough*

El's its your turn!

	21-02-2002 21:17									#47
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played. Several rebel scum freights sunk in the Golfo de Mejico!

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	22-02-2002 00:02									#48
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Heres my turn!

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	22-02-2002 03:38									#49
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Here is my turn, comments will follow tomorrow...

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	22-02-2002 05:41									#50
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One of our sea raiders has sank 2 Yankee frigates. Exuberant crowds gathered and cheered at the demise of the yankees.

And ofcourse, the save...

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	22-02-2002 08:14									#51
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French Marines today secured Merida. It is understood that the ctiy's garrison mutinied against the Mexican government following the gift of 200 gold worth of wine

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	22-02-2002 11:58									#52
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I'm really sorry to do this, especially since this game was really starting to speed up (everyone managed to play their turn while I was at school ) but I think someone has to play their second turn again.

The reason? Some generous leader has gifted Mexico a whole bunch of techs that I didn't want . They've obsoleted the best units Mexico can field (ie bandits)

Can whoever it was please replay their turn? Bandits are the only good thing about Mexico at the beginning, I wont have a chance versus Case without them. And next time you want to give me techs could you please check with me first.

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	22-02-2002 13:00									#53
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I fully agree with Winterfritz about gifting tech: please check with the "receiver"!!

The only difference with the Mexican for this turn is... I simply LOVE the techs I have been given, so please while replaying give me the same techs again...

By the way Winterfritz, I didn't give you any tech...

	22-02-2002 19:40									#54
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I didn't trade with Mexico

	22-02-2002 20:03									#55
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I wanted to pass on some military tech but it was all economic that allowed me to, though I doubt that obsoleted your bandits... let me check.

BTW, I'll clean the scenario for you clear of the tech that screws up bandits if you like in order to prevent replaying all these turns.

	22-02-2002 23:33									#56
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From memory, Railroad seems to be the culprit. But if you stop it from obsoleting bandits, then suddenly every major power will be able to build bandits, which would probably unbalance things.

So it'd probably be better if you just replay your turn, El Awrence. If the AI keeps asking for RR, then just don't give me anything for the time being.

	22-02-2002 23:37									#57
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OOppps my bad, you gave my industrializtion for railroad... oops!

	23-02-2002 03:27									#58
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Soundwave, are you trading indiscriminately?

	23-02-2002 04:55									#59
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No i was trying to get my ally to ally so

	23-02-2002 05:46									#60
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Well, while I appreciate your alliance you must always, always check with the player before you do stuff like that. Having the AI negotiate for you is like sending a two year old to secure your release from a hostage situation...

Can you please play your turn again? If you want to ally, set your stance to worshipful to me and I'll do the same in my turn, and then we'll ally without problems.