16-02-2002 04:33									#1
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I was wondering if anyone would be interested in playing a PBEM of American Empire? This scenario is available from the Spanish Civ2 Site.

The theatre is the North American continent, from the start of the Civil War to the end of the Spanish American War, 1861-1899. There is a lot of empire building involved, and plenty of open space to do it in. The players are the US, the Confederates, the British (Canada), the Mexicans, the Spanish/French colonies in the Caribbean, the Indians, and the Border States.

Just about all of these are fun to play, with the exception of the Border States. If we can fill all those slots, then this could be a really interesting game.

I'll take the Mexicans

Confederates -
Border States - AI
French/Spanish -
Mexicans - winterfritz
United States -
English -
Indians -

	16-02-2002 04:39									#2
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I'll take the British Empire... thanks winterfritz (you know i'm up for any PBEM you have to offer, just e-mail me next time please )


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	16-02-2002 04:43									#3
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OMG! I was playing this half an hour ago, thinking "we should a PBEM of this"

Gimme gimme gimme... the evil union!

	16-02-2002 06:58									#4
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I'll take them rebs from the South!

	16-02-2002 10:15									#5
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Let get a roll on .... roll up roll up!!!


Hmmm come on guys.. it slways seems to be me, winterfritz and Anzac whos is playing these the most

	16-02-2002 10:16									#6
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Great! So here is the current player list:

Confederates - The ANZAC - theanzac@optonline.com
Border States - AI
French/Spanish -
Mexicans - winterfritz - winterfritz_21@yahoo.com
United States - El Awrence - m_carreras@hotmail.com
English - Soundwave- seanie_babes@hotmail.com
Indians -

The French/Spanish and Indian civs are still open... and the Border States too, if anyone is desperate enough to take them

	16-02-2002 13:18									#7
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The British Empire laid's claims
Coz of my size, can i have the French/Spanish Cities Please
British Empire has full support and is backing the Mexicans in resisting the French!


If you are the British/Border Sates it boring... so no human player because i have a war on my hands!

	16-02-2002 13:39									#8
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If you're asking whether you can control the French/Spanish as well as the English, Soundwave, I'd rather you didn't. It'll be the best if we have seperate players for each of the civs.

Don't worry about the British being boring. Perhaps they are in single player, but in an MP game they will definetely have an interesting time. They are a reasonably powerful nation, and there is nothing to stop them from pursuing territorial ambitions or getting involved in the civil war.

On the other hand, if you were asking whether you could play the French/Spanish instead of Britain, I have no problems with that. Just don't expect conquering Mexico to be a walkover

	16-02-2002 13:48									#9
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you are mexico right i'm britian.. i will help you in crushing them.. and it would be quick... so i dont think there should be a French Spanish Player... indian yes, coz that would be fun... but if anyones going be French or Spanish Except the Brtish to blow them outta the Water!!

	16-02-2002 14:07									#10
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Ah, okay. I had trouble understanding your first post, but I get it now.

I'd still rather we had a French/Spanish player though. They are one of the major powers in this scen, and conquering them would not be a pushover at all. Besides, the more players in a PBEM like this, the better

The Mexican Republic greatly appreciates your offer of help. Hopefully, when we do get a French/Spanish leader, they will realise the folly of trying to invade our peace-loving nation and send their expeditionary force elsewhere

	16-02-2002 18:20									#11
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BTW Anzac, if you want you can play your turn while we wait for those last 2 players, as you go first.

Seeing as how at the moment, all the players here are also in the second AoW PBEM, may I suggest the same 48 hour time limit on the turns in this game? The time limit seems to have kept Age of War going pretty quickly, and it'd be great to see that happen here too.

	17-02-2002 05:29									#12
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Lets get going! GRRR, and some conquest awaits!

	17-02-2002 09:18									#13
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I'll play my turn in the 'morn. I 'm tired now.

	17-02-2002 09:48									#14
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I'll take the French/Spanish

	17-02-2002 09:58									#15
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This certainly is the usual suspects isn't it

	17-02-2002 10:32									#16
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We need to get that Soze guy!

	17-02-2002 11:10									#17
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I don't think we can get the Soze guy, El Awrence, whenever you try and get him he just disappears

Anyway, theres just one slot left now, the Indians. Perhaps Cyrion can take them

Heres an updated player list:

Confederates - The ANZAC - theanzac@optonline.com
Border States - AI
French/Spanish - Case - nick_dowling@hotmail.com
Mexicans - winterfritz - winterfritz_21@yahoo.com
United States - El Awrence - m_carreras@hotmail.com
English - Soundwave- seanie_babes@hotmail.com
Indians -

	17-02-2002 11:15									#18
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Are the Indians really playable?

	17-02-2002 11:29									#19
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quote: Are the Indians really playable?

They are in single player, though quite challenging. I think it would make the settlement of the west a lot more interesting if we had an Indian player.

	17-02-2002 11:58									#20
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Yeah, they're playable. Take a look at the readme file for some hints on how to play them.

Btw, I'm really looking forward to seeing how this one plays out. I designed this with MP in mind, and although the scenario isn't really "balanced," the interplay ought to be interesting to watch.

IMO, the Union has the most powerful position, followed by the Confederacy. The British, French/Spanish, and Mexican all have strengths and weaknesses, and as noted, the Border States are not really playable.

Good luck and have fun.

Exile

	17-02-2002 12:03									#21
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I think we should get a Indian Player, and then help them out a little as least!!

So i'm PM Cyrion

Then we can start???Start now??

O winterfritz and you other guys join The Peloponnesian War as well, but its actually Hellas PBEM, maybe Anzac you wanna start a new thread, just a thought...

	17-02-2002 20:50									#22
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Smashing Victory at Fort Sumter!

The Confederate Army yesterday had a glorious victory over the Yankee garrison at Fort Sumter. One soldier said, "We's sent dem yeller bellied Yankee's up North!"

Crowds are estantic all over the Confederate States of America. The fight for freedom seems winnable now.

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	18-02-2002 03:50									#23
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Not much happening here

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	18-02-2002 04:26									#24
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British PM Congrats Confederate Troops
Today the British Pm Congratulated the Confederation on the Capture of Fort Sumner.. although the Canadian Governor Richards today said, they can Congratulate Everyone, but the Union is our friends as well as Confrederates and both should not be taking lightly, in the following he told reporters to Dismiss The PM's comments, as it has been heard of the Governor favouring the Union...

	18-02-2002 04:41									#25
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Exile, why don't you take the Indians?

	18-02-2002 06:37									#26
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Good idea come on exile!

	18-02-2002 11:04									#27
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But I'm going to decline your gracious offer. I know too much about the scenario. I've played it probably dozens, if not hundreds of times. There are things that I know that would not be fair to the other players.

My suggestion is to find someone with a kamikaze mentality and let them play the Native Americans.

Exile

	18-02-2002 12:36									#28
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Anzac, are you sure you didn't start this game on Diety? An awful lot of my cities went into disorder for Prince difficulty.

Then again, maybe the Mexicans just don't like me

	18-02-2002 13:11									#29
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This month, the Mexican inhabitants of South Texas revolted! Throwing off the yoke of their Confederate masters, the Mexicans captured the town of Brownsville.

The provisional government there has asked the Mexican President for absorption into Mexico, and he has agreed to these requests. The area below the Nueces River has become a part of the Mexican Federation as the state of West Texas.

This area was unjustly stolen from Mexico by belligerent US armies in 1846, so its re-absorption by our glorious republic is only right and fair.

In other news, the new President has introduced radical reforms that will dramatically increase the size of the Mexican Army. However, he has asserted that this new and improved force will do no more than 'provide a more adequate defence against our glorious country's enemies.'

Also, the President has declared that the Mexican Republic is ready to recieve proposals of alliances from the great powers of North America. In particular, he has no wish for conflict with the CSA (Governor AI of Texas excitedly declared war when Brownsville rebelled.) President Anzac is assured that Mexican territorial ambitions in Texas have been more than satisfied.

The President continues too to call for peace with the Spanish/French expeditionary force. 'Your powerful army would admittedly do well on a European battlefield, but in the Mexican plains and hills it will be decimated by our bandits. We ask that you make peace, rather than cause us both to squander our military force needlessly,' he stated in a telegram sent to Havana.

	18-02-2002 13:14									#30
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And heres the save.

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