17-02-2002 03:42									#1
	Dumb Football (Soccer) question from American Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Never mind. I found the answer using a google search.

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	17-02-2002 03:57									#3
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Something ain't right. The USA have jumped 11 places in the last month in the world rankings. They're now 13th in the world!

	17-02-2002 05:10									#4
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They finally realised which sport it is the rest of the world gives a damn about, and started investing.

	17-02-2002 05:18									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Immortal Wombat They finally realised which sport it is the rest of the world gives a damn about, and started investing.

They tried an American League in the (early 70's?) when Pele was near the end of his career and it failed.

	17-02-2002 06:42									#6
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'cos they had no infrastructure in place just old superstars on a pension

	17-02-2002 06:53									#7
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The US squad should include Mia Hamm

	17-02-2002 06:55									#8
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We have a soccer league now and its as popular as ever!

The only thing we have realized about soccer is its still about as exciting as watching mold grow on the "Queen Mum".

	17-02-2002 07:21									#9
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quote: The only thing we have realized about soccer is its still about as exciting as watching mold grow on the "Queen Mum".

Watching the crap the MLS produces its bound to be boring.

	17-02-2002 07:29									#10
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can any american explain the off-side rule wthout a search engine?

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Anytime there is a decent breakaway, the dude along the sidelines waves the starting flag and everybody stops and b1tches.

	17-02-2002 07:34									#12
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..and stops the touchdown?

	17-02-2002 07:38									#13
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The funny thing about the MLS is that a game is not permitted to end in a draw.

Does the US play any sport where a draw is permitted, or does one side/person always have to win?

	17-02-2002 07:40									#14
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presidental elections?...well nearly

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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin The funny thing about the MLS is that a game is not permitted to end in a draw.

They did away with that rule ages ago. (If you count one year as an age.)

And red, I was going to say, Anytime there is a deep post route, .... but I thought it would be above the heads of most British.

	17-02-2002 07:44									#16
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there's hope for you lot yet!

	17-02-2002 08:24									#17
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	17-02-2002 08:28									#18
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Well I just looked it up and it's different from ice hockey's.

	17-02-2002 08:40									#19
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Offsides is when you try to pass to a player and there are no defenders closer to their goal than he is.

Right?

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yup.

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Imagine that. An American who knows about THAT sport

	17-02-2002 09:15									#22
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Well I don't really like football but yes I guess nearly everybody in the old world knows about it

BTW in baseball the point is to hit the ball as far as possible right? and then to run from base to base.

In each base there stand a player that waits for the ball to be thrown to his hands. If the opposite player reaches the base without the ball having returned to the hands of player 1 he can go on and on to all the bases right?

Now if he completes all the bases what happens?
also how is the score calculated?

(if you're not bored answer me I've sometimes wondered )

	17-02-2002 09:21									#23
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 (if you're not bored answer me I've sometimes wondered )

I am bored but I'm not going to answer because it would take pages to explain the rules to *my* satisfaction. And that's because I'm a baseball fan. Someone who doesn't understand the game as much would probably be more willing to explain it, because he would be willing to leave out what I would consider important details.

Most fans aren't aware of some rules, like the "infield fly rule". I remember once that a player got booed because he was doing a rare play, which was intentionally dropping the ball on a short fly that was not called an infield fly by the umpires, and thus was in position to make 2 outs instead of 1.

As it is though, I hear cricket is ridiculously more complicated.

	17-02-2002 09:24									#24
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Ah, baseball, that I know about having played (half-decently in fact) for several years.

The point isn't NECESSARILY to hit the ball as far as possible - the point is to get on base. Sometimes, in fact, the point is to hit the ball such that you will be thrown out, but in the process another player advances or scores. This process is known as sacrifice flies, or a sacrifice bunt. In general, you DO want to hit the ball as far as possible, although unless you are hitting a homerun a line drive or "blooper" is better than a high fly ball.

As to the next question, let's take this example.

The batter hits a ground ball down the third base line. The third baseman picks it up and throws to the first baseman. If the first baseman catches the ball before the batter (now the runner) reaches first base, by touching his foot (or hand) on the base, then the batter is out, meaning he retires to the dugout, and his team his penalized one of their three outs for the inning.

However, if the batter/runner reaches 1st base before the 1st baseman catches the ball, he is "safe", meaning he remains on first base. He does not have free reign to travel around the bases.

The only time one gets a free trip around the bases is when one hits a homerun - basically, hits the ball past the fence in the outfield, in between each of the foul poles.

OK, as to score.

Each time a person on base crosses home plate, by touching their foot or hand on home plate, their team scores a run. Whoever has the most runs, wins.

Confused?

	17-02-2002 09:25									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin quote: The only thing we have realized about soccer is its still about as exciting as watching mold grow on the "Queen Mum". Watching the crap the MLS produces its bound to be boring.

On the contrary, we've seen World Cup futbol and it's still boring.

	17-02-2002 09:27									#26
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The basic rules of baseball

There is a hitter and a pitcher. The pitcher stands on a little hill facing home plate, and the hitter stands looking across home plate holding a bat. There are 8 people on the same team as the pitcher standing in various places around the field. Hitters who have previously gone to bases are standing on or near the bases.

It is the object of the pitcher and his team to get the members of the other team 'out'. 3 'outs' and the teams revers - the hitters team takes the field and the pitcher's team gets to hit.
It is the object of the hitter and his team to get as many people as possible around the bases and back to home plate - to score 'runs'.

The pitcher throws the ball. If the hitter swings the bat, and misses, it is a strike. Three striles and the hitter is out. If the hitter does not swing, and it is far away enough from him, it is a 'ball'. Otherwise it is a 'strike'. 4 balls and the hittergets to go to the first base automatically.

If the hitter hits the ball, there are four things that can happen. If the opposing team catches the ball, the hitter is out. If the ball hits the ground, the hitter becomes a runner, and runs around the bases. If a member of the opposite team touches a base-runner with the ball, and the runner is not standing on a base, that runner is out. Runners cannot pass other runners, nor can two runners be on the same base. If the hitter hits the ball over the wall, it is a home run, and all the runners run home and score runs. If the ball is too far to the left or the right, it is a foul and nothing happens.

When a runner gets back to home plate, without getting out, they score a run. The team with the most runs at the end of the game wins.

It's much less complicated when you actually play the game.

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Forgot to post with last post. And didn't see your post, Floyd.

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	17-02-2002 09:28									#28
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ok I got most of it.

1 question

so a runner can stand next to a base and wait right?
when will he be able to move again?
is it when the next hitter hits the ball and the other team tries to catch it and return it to a «baseman»?

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Damn this server is slow...reason for double post.

	17-02-2002 09:34									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Goingonit If the hitter hits the ball, there are four things that can happen. If the opposing team catches the ball, the hitter is out. If the ball hits the ground, the hitter becomes a runner, and runs around the bases. If a member of the opposite team touches a base-runner with the ball, and the runner is not standing on a base, that runner is out.

But there are times when you don't have to tag the runner, but only the base. The first example is running to first base.

You can also run to first if you strike out if the catcher drops the ball or lets it go by him.

And if there's a "force out", you don't have to tag the runner either.