18-02-2002 01:38									#1
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The other day I reopened a game in which I was playing as the University and had a huge contient with another huge continient just across the channel from mine. Said Contient was filled with Yang's bases. Seeing as I was trying to win by way of diplomacy I wanted no war with the hive. They would have probably won eventually I had no offensive millitary, only police units defending my bases and some crawlers/sea crawlers and formers/sea formers. I had an ingenious idea....The hive apparently had not reshearched D:Flex even though I had the diffculty on transcend as I always do these days.Seeing that they had not reshearched D:Flex I decided I dndt need a millitary to get rid of them and instead I began lowering their entire empire into the sea. It was exclent fun wacthing base after base after base sink.They however never asked for peace seeing as they had the best millitary on the planet for a time and I had virtually no millitary so I just quitely wacthed as their bases became submerged

	18-02-2002 04:51									#2
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Cool!

I already thought about if it is possible to win a game by setting up a heavily polluting base which causes sea level rises en masse, the base being equipped with a few formers to stay above sea level and repair the boreholes, and some empath rovers to kill the mind worms.

	18-02-2002 18:27									#3
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quote: Originally posted by Adalbertus I already thought about if it is possible to win a game by setting up a heavily polluting base which causes sea level rises en masse, the base being equipped with a few formers to stay above sea level and repair the boreholes, and some empath rovers to kill the mind worms.

Unfortunately, bases above a certain size are never submerged, even without a Pressure Dome (it gets automatically given to the base by the game).

I'm guessing this only happens with sea level rises (not submerging via formers), as otherwise 666'srevenge's tactic would not have worked...

	18-02-2002 19:09									#4
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I have seen an AI base get a free Pressure Dome automatically after I submerged it with a former. There was discussion about this in another thread - I don't recall what the answer was.

	09-03-2002 00:37									#5
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quote: Originally posted by fluffy Unfortunately, bases above a certain size are never submerged, even without a Pressure Dome (it gets automatically given to the base by the game).

Even if the faction doesn't have the pressure dome tech? Far out.

666 - great idea!

	09-03-2002 02:21									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Earwicker Even if the faction doesn't have the pressure dome tech? Far out. 666 - great idea!

I think it works this way:

Situation 1:
* Base is size 1 or 2 or 3
* No Pressure Dome
The base dissapears into the ocean and thousands die

Situation 2:
* Base is size 4 or above
* No Pressure Dome
The base is reduced to size 4 (if it already isn't) and gains a free Pressure Dome! (thus becoming a sea base)

	24-03-2002 02:15									#7
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Are you sure about that? I remember just submerging Morgan to death in a SP game and he had some decent size bases.

	24-03-2002 03:13									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Gasmaske Are you sure about that? I remember just submerging Morgan to death in a SP game and he had some decent size bases.

Hmm... I know after a global warming, in one game, Gaian size 3 base got submerged but I don't actually remember ever seeing a base of size 4 and above be submerged and become a sea base. Well, now that I think of it - in one game I had a size 12 base (with Pressure Dome) in the centre of Garland Crater. As the sea level rose a couple of times, the crater centre became a sea square and the base was a sea base all of a sudden!




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	25-03-2002 08:31									#9
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I have used the drown the world strategy... works best as an alternate OCC (but you need military units to wipe out the worms). What happens is all the enemy factions lose heaps of small bases, but more importantely all of the land terraforming is lost. This basically cripples their economy and military, and the lack of road destroys mobility.

You meanwhile sit high and dry upon a mountain staffed by a herd of super formers (raising terrain quite often...).