19-02-2002 02:12									#1
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Whoa, they made some major changes to how marketplaces work, I think. Now the total happy faces is based on how many luxuries you have, and you get nothing if you don't have at least three luxuries. This was a nasty discovery in my first post-patch game where I built a bunch of marketplaces(not religious) to help with happiness and I only had 2 luxuries. I can probably trade for a third one right now, but its a bit paltry, the one extra happy face.

	19-02-2002 02:17									#2
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IIRC the first 2 luxuries only made 2 content people happy (ie one each) with or without marketplaces in all versions of the game. The point of marketplaces is that after they are built the third and fourth luxuries _each_ make 2 content people happy

	19-02-2002 02:43									#3
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Yeah, I think that's the same as it was already. In previous versions, the first two luxuries gave 1 happy face each, the third and fourth luxuries gave 2 each, the fifth and sixth gave three each and the last two gave four each, with a marketplace. Is that what you're seeing, or did I misunderstand your post?

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	20-02-2002 02:30									#4
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quote: Originally posted by barefootbadass Whoa, they made some major changes to how marketplaces work, I think. Now the total happy faces is based on how many luxuries you have, and you get nothing if you don't have at least three luxuries. This was a nasty discovery in my first post-patch game where I built a bunch of marketplaces(not religious) to help with happiness and I only had 2 luxuries. I can probably trade for a third one right now, but its a bit paltry, the one extra happy face.

That's precisely the way it's described in the civilpedia and how I experienced it prior to the patch. What are you saying is different; how did you think it was before? You third luxery is worth TWO new happy faces in cities with marketplaces.

	20-02-2002 18:15									#5
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In a city with a marketplace:

1 luxury makes 1 happy person.
2 makes 2 happy people.
The 3rd makes 2 happy people by itself, for a total of 4.
The 4th makes 2 happy people by itself, for a total of 6.
The 5th makes 3 happy people by itself, for a total of 9.
The 6th makes 3 happy people by itself, for a total of 12.
The 7th makes 4 happy people by itself, for a total of 16.
The 8th makes 4 happy people by itself, for a total of 20.

Thats how it works in every version of Civ 3 to date.

	20-02-2002 22:31									#6
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Barefoot,

You weren't pop rushing by any chance were you? Changes to pop rush rules have pretty profound implications on unhappiness calcs.

	21-02-2002 17:08									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe Barefoot, You weren't pop rushing by any chance were you? Changes to pop rush rules have pretty profound implications on unhappiness calcs.

That's a reason I try to avoid pop-rushing for: I hate Unseen Consequences. :S

	21-02-2002 23:37									#8
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No, I was wrong, I assumed that the differences for happy faces from different luxuries was determined by the type of luxury(before patch). But I never checked because it was a logical assumption(I didn't even think of it as an assumption).