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Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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The College of New Jersey
Nov 1999
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I hate when this happens! The AI is getting a ridiculous military advantage!!

Every battle I'm in, I lose. I just fought an attacking Chinese Regular Swordsmen with my defending Elite Swordsmen who was on a MOUNTAIN mind you, and the Chinese won!

On the other side of the map, I've got the Germans who are launching a full-scale invasion that I have virtually no way of halting, and I had three Swordsmen to blunt their attack (All Veteran) and their puny Regular Swordsmen rolled right over them, and wiped out the Spearmen defending a Size 11 city!!

What the hell is this?!

I've also played other games were the AI would win every single naval battle I fought with them even if it was my Frigate attacking theirs, or my Ironclad vs. their Frigate!

Does the AI or more specifically the Militant AI get a special bonus in combat????

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Jan 2002
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Could you post a save of this? It would be interesting to see.

Worthingtons is offline Worthingtons
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Jan 2002
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I have noticed the AI seems to get 'lucky' far too often, but a Swordsman beating another swordsman is not impossibile in the conditions you describe, remember they have THREE attack and TWO defense... you were just unlucky i think...

Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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Rothy, normally I would agree with you. But time and time again my Swordsmen have been defeated when attacking enemy swordsmen even on level ground. It's just annoying.

Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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Nov 1999
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OH YES I LOVE THIS GAME!

Well, here it is over a century later, and thus far I've managed to fight the uphill battle against those dastardly Germans. It's basically cost me 2 of my units for every 1 German unit... (It's never been so difficult to fight somebody before). In the end, I have had to completely abandon my assault on China after capturing only one city, Beijing.

I took back Dover (actually it was destroyed in the fighting). I took back Nottingham, which was reduced from a size 11 city with a courthouse, barracks, temple, and library to a size 4 city with nothing. I couldn't recapture Newcastle, a size 4 city guarded by 3 spearmen, with an Army of three Swordsmen as well as five other swordsmen moving in as support. And in the last turn, Canterbury fell to a single German archer. : I even have an ally, France, on the southern border of Germany who has done precisely nothing to divert Germany's forces away from me.

Yep, this is a great game!

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Ah! you're the English!! Great Stuff!!

My (frustrating) war has took a turn for the better , and my since I managed to get that 9th leader (shortly followed by the 10th) I have myself back as #1 power

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Dec 2001
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I lost a war vs the Aztecs because a stack of veteran hoplites, fortified, in a jungle, across a river, lost to an equal number of veteran archers. I counted 11 times in that war when my hoplites lost to their archers, while the Aztecs lost a grand total of zero archers in the process. Of course 5 of my archers couldn't kill the lone spearman defending that size 2 city.

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Jan 2002
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i did once throw approx 15 jaguar warriors against what must've been several spearmen to try and take a city at the beginning of a game once. IIRC about 5 died and the majority of the rest lost their battle, with only a couple of wins (i didnt take the size 5 city).

I stopped playing as the aztecs after that

Generally I find the AI has a little bit more luck than me on average...but luck is luck...

Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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Well, then I guess it was all just bad luck on my part.

Darn, and I thought there might be one area of my life where'd I'd have the advantage!

Oh well, I started a new game as the French...

Ok, actually, I started a new game as the Chinese.

That went rather bad due to poor starting location and annoying Indian and Japanese neighbors.

Sooo... I started another game as the French. What a disaster! If I had started on the planet Mars, it probably would have been more hospitable. I founded Paris on Hills because it was the only tile in a ten-square radius that wasn't mountains or ocean. I went with it for a little while anyway, and I managed to found Joan's summer home of Orleans on a nice piece of beachside Tundra surrounded by... lots more Tundra! And who wouldn't want to get away from home at a nice wind-swept ice plain? Well, with a home like that, a dank cave with a hibernating grizzly bear might seem more cozy.

So I embarked for a third and final time like a pioneer who can't ever find the right homestead. I tried the French again. This time I found myself a nice cushy little spot with all of the right materials for building an empire. The goodie hut with the settler in it gave me a nice little head start above everybody else. Long story short, I got my revenge on the Germans in this game... soon they'll be gone.

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I didnt get the chance to kill the Germans in this game cos the Japs did it first

Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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Start a new game. Be somebody you know will start by them. The French work. I can testify to that. Russia works too. Consider it like reincarnated revenge.

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Sep 2001
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I find myself immediately restarting a great many games soon after I start them because of a poor starting position. I know some people consider it unsporting, but, I hate to waste hours of my time on a doomed game and would rather play a game where I stand a fighting chance.

Dom Pedro II is offline Dom Pedro II
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Talk about unsporting... I reload saved games. How unsporting is that? Of course, I don't do it often. Only when something truly ridiculous happens that I should have gotten a warning about or something like would happen in any real life event.

But its important to feel like you've got a fair shot at winning. I mean, I have loads of games I never play all the way through.

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I never reload, but i dont play crap starting posistions tho....

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