02-11-1999 05:42									#1
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It may seem ridiculous given the Game League, but they do not have a system similar to this. Multiplayer games take 10x longer than normal do, and so I think a standard civ game would make an excellent challenge, if the map is constructed right, and if it be a scenario, be it a good one.

I'd also like to see this revived since it was, originally, an idea Mark picked up from yours truly at Nate Snitzer's old forum.

	02-11-1999 14:50									#2
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I second the motion

	02-11-1999 20:52									#3
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I third the motion.

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	02-11-1999 23:28									#4
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I am getting motion sickness....

But I'll add an aye for an aye.

	03-11-1999 01:53									#5
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TOURNAMENT GAMES? (don't have the faintest idea of what they are)

i follow the motion

	03-11-1999 03:50									#6
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sure! great idea!
who wants to run it

	03-11-1999 04:08									#7
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Good response Mark

	03-11-1999 06:40									#8
	Tired of ads?

Mmmmmmmm. Stick together, don't they? Exactly how difficult would it be? Having myself got no further than designing maps for friends?

Australia actually makes for an interesting map. I've done it. Good fun, except for the zillions of grains of sand in the middle of the country. Still, we love it.

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Mono Rules!

	03-11-1999 07:07									#9
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I will.

I'll also draw up the map, or assign the scenario.

	03-11-1999 07:40									#10
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Hurray. When does it start?

	08-11-1999 08:39									#11
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I'll email MarkG and tell him that I will collect the data and start the puppy up.

	08-11-1999 08:47									#12
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Count me in Sarge!

	08-11-1999 21:21									#13
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More map drawers here!

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	16-11-1999 18:08									#14
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Sarge,

Please make any tournament scenarios or save games 2.42 friendly, if possible. I would be interested in participating, but a CiC/FW/MGE/ToT save game or scenario would exclude me.

A suggestion: there seems to be a lot of enthusiasm for no-wonders games on the MP topic. How about setting up a no-wonders single-player scenario so people could try out their favorite strategies? I'm no scenario expert, but it seems to me that you could build a city that contained all the wonders, then destroy it.

	09-02-2000 00:51									#15
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Sarge? Are you still out there? I've sent an Email to Dan & Mark volunteering to run a tournament game.

	09-02-2000 01:46									#16
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Yeah tournaments are fun. I remember running a couple a while back.

I dont see why they need to be 'interesting map' or scenarios, the way we used to run tournaments is if anyone played a game (randomly generated) that happened to be good/unusual it would become a tournament game. Designed maps or scenarios could never compete with the interesting games the computer throws up from time to time.

Graag

	09-02-2000 02:09									#17
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Graag - the big advantage of a scenario is that it allows people to play at any level of difficulty. I think this would widen the audience, since not everyone here is a Deity player. If someone has an "interesting" map, it's easy enough to convert it to a scenario.

	09-02-2000 02:35									#18
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Dave, I was going to reply to your mail, but since you posted here, I might as well reply:

sounds good, what about the game to be used? anyone got a suggestion??

	09-02-2000 02:51									#19
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I'll repeat my suggestion of several months ago: a game in which no wonders can be built (except for Apollo).

	09-02-2000 14:45									#20
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Time constraints (like earning a living) allowing it sounds fun - for the benefit of myself and the other relative newbies - what are the rules?

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	09-02-2000 17:38									#21
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SG1 - what I am planning on doing is something like the One City Challenge comparison games. A game is made available for download. People play it and compare results. No restrictions on rules - you can play OCC, conquest, or multi-city spaceship win.

	11-02-2000 06:06									#22
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Whoa...I think I lost track of something along the way...

If someone else has taken the reins from incompitent ol' me, then great, but I'd like to run it, if I haven't blown my chance.

PS I think I tried to email Mark and my email wouldn't let me do, so I got pissed and never got around to sending the actual email. Sorry...

	11-02-2000 06:11									#23
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Sounds equitable, Dave.

The original tournement game on the Civ 2 Universe was a random map with a favorable starting possition for everyone and the object was to see how well you did by 1000 A.D.

My idea was basicly tweek this with more interesting planets and set the beginning at different eras.

See, what happened is I wrote all this up, a nice two page email document, which I did not bother to save. I emailed MarkG, and then the email told me I couldn't send the letter, and furthermore, everything crashed and I lost my document. I got so pissed I simply forgot to do it.

	11-02-2000 17:51									#24
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Sergeant Sheets - I'm certainly not trying to usurp your position. I'm no scenario guru, nor a masochist who wants to volunteer for a lot of work. If you want to run the tournament, that's fine with me - I just didn't want the idea to fade away.

	12-02-2000 04:43									#25
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well, I'll leave it to the people of this forum to come up with a game. mail me when you're set to go.

	12-02-2000 06:44									#26
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I'll throw something together. I'll be a scenario, but I think it'll be some made up thing set on a computer made planet. I got write down my ideas and so forth so the scenario doesn't come out like crap.

	12-02-2000 13:44									#27
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Since you seem intent on doctoring a map, may I make two suggestions:

A long thin map (20*250 or whatever), goal is conquest. Earliest conquest wins.

A large map, with the player starting on a small island (big enough for 3-5 cities), far away from all the other, larger islands with an AI civ each. Colonisation of any form is banned (including tribes), the only way to get cities is through conquest or bribery. Goal is world conquest, earliest wins.

Graag

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	13-02-2000 03:13									#28
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My idea was a medium world with limited resources.

The island idea is good, but it seems drawn out. Conquest will be the objective, of course. What I am thinking is this:

Seven civs, three which to pick from. The civs you can pick from each must start their civ from stratch, while the AI is given a bit of a head start.

	14-02-2000 16:04									#29
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Lord, you guys are masochists!

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