21-12-2000 04:46									#1
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In ctp2 you still have no control over unit placement on the tactical screen, and you are essentially reduced to being a spectator as the battle unfolds. Watching valuable units die because of seemingly random map placement can be frustrating. Wouldn´t it be nice if we could place our units in a gridded tactical screen (and perhaps the battle itself could be turn-based)?

	21-12-2000 05:16									#2
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I have not played CTP II yet, but I have posted a thread on kind of what you are talking about, look it up, its called: Combat.

It says it was posted by Tim White.

	21-12-2000 05:42									#3
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Has anyone here played Shogun; Total War.
It uses a turn based system for most of the game but descends to a full 3D real time tactical battle view which allows you to basically do what ever the hell you like.
I have two ideas inspired by this;

1::Use a 3D view which is based on the tile the defenders are on. This means a different battlefield for each tile type, which would be about 14-18 or something.

2::Use a 2D battleview, like FALVE'S idea, where you choose where to place your troops, whether you want to try to outflank your enemy etc.

	21-12-2000 06:11									#4
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I totally like the idea of a second battle map, I suggested it in my 'Combat' thread. I have not played, Shogun: Total War. or whatever the name was, but I have played, Lords of the Realm II. it is much like what you described, the actual game is completely turn-based, but then once two armies come to meet, then goes into a battle-map.

	21-12-2000 06:26									#5
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I'm not sure about this. This might be a good idea, as long as it doesn't get too bogged down in warfare. I don't want the game to become Panzer Commander-in-Chief. As long as it's optional, and it doesn't take away from improving diplomacy, economics, domestic affairs, etc. it wouldn't bother me.