23-02-2002 03:33									#1
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Lounching new smac game :
4 human 3 AI
open factions-Gaians;Beliebers;Peace Keepers;University

Original SMAC
Waiting for players to join currently
Settings will be discussed after somebody joins here.



(Edited by Solver to reflect some things )

Last edited by Solver on 24-02-2002 at 00:06

	23-02-2002 22:18									#2
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Just an advise, but it's usually a bad idea to state settings before starting the game.

	23-02-2002 22:43									#3
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why (ill be happy to learn.....)?

	23-02-2002 22:50									#4
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When you start a game, usually you're better off specifiying number of players and version (smac/smacx). As players looking for a game come into your thread, you'll together discuss what setting you'd like to play with.

Youngbloods, come over here, this guy wants to play. And listen to me...

BTW, nice to see you're from Israel.

	23-02-2002 23:11									#5
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thanks!

took advices-i'll be willing to change things for fun!

	24-02-2002 00:04									#6
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No problems. And another tip - edit your first post as the settings come. I'll edit it for you as I see it now. And don't worry, normally only you can edit your posts.

	24-02-2002 03:43									#7
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I'd be willing to play PeaceKeepers. I can generaly do 1 turn a day, perhaps 2.

I'd be happy to play the following-
Medium or large world?

Thinker level?

Normal leavls of rain/fungas/med-large landmass

I'm playing one other game right now (IronWood1), however, one of the players is dropping out .

(I can play SMAX too if you want).

	24-02-2002 05:58									#8
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OK, I'm in. I'll take the Gaians. I can play SMAC or SMAX. Here are the settings I prefer:

Large random map
30-50% ocean coverage
average clouds/erosion/native life
transcend difficulty

As far as rules:

pods on
random events on
blind research off
unity survey off
look first on
spoils of war, etc on
tech stag. off


my E-Mail address: dnandal@twcny.rr.com

	24-02-2002 10:43									#9
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Hmm, I don't like the idea of spoils of war (I think it gives too much advnatage to the attacker myself).

Otherwise, fine.

	24-02-2002 11:02									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Comstr Hmm, I don't like the idea of spoils of war (I think it gives too much advnatage to the attacker myself).

Yeah, so?

Whenever there has been conflict before as far as initial game settings are concerned, I have forwarded the approach that I learned on cross-country trips in the U.S., and that is every passenger in the car gets a vote as far as what radio station to listen to (i.e. everyone gets to forward their own opinions about how they think the game should be set up), but the driver rules the radio (i.e. this is t-ras's thread, so he has final say if there is conflict). Regardless, IMO Spoils of War moves the game along, and, sitting in the back seat, thats my vote!

What's yours?

	24-02-2002 14:05									#11
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we'l diside finely with all players.

anyway spoils of war reduce many times big gaps of technology
that make the game unbalanced, so i think will take it.
all other settings i think we'll all take the saem more or less.
i prefer the game acelerated-but if you realy dont i'll take it too,
i have both tipes allready prepered.
the moment we have another 2 more players i'll let you know
the finel settings and willll begin.

ENJOY.

	24-02-2002 16:15									#12
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Well, I wanted another game. Count me in as Uni.

	24-02-2002 17:01									#13
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so...what we have by now:

Comstr-PK's
Darsnan(wellcome pal!)-Gaians
Archaic-UNI

the moment we have the resting one i'll ask for your adresses an so on...

	25-02-2002 10:18									#14
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Greetings all!

I see a new game beginning, but I see no CMN as of yet.

Would you care to try a newbie one?

If any reputable CMN's would like to bump me or if anyone in the group would prefer someone else, I'll not be offended.

Thanks!

	25-02-2002 11:22									#15
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i'm the "cmn" (if you mean the one in charge of game...),certenly a newbe 1.....

but you can joyn as player....

	25-02-2002 11:40									#16
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If you wish, no problemmo!

Just, I have noted that a CMN (Creator, Moderator, Narrator) is useful as a third party for several reasons.

a) They can assure a good start via the scenario editor, make sure factions don't start too close together (unless it's decided they want to), make sure the map is reasonable. If 1 player starts off on a little tiny island, room enough for only one base, they might get discouraged and the whole game will suffer.

b) AI Factions are usually a pushover at the beginning, a CMN can offer them some bonuses and place them away from players at the start so they have time to establish themselves.

c) A third party is good to keep passwords, just in case someone has to drop out of the game, so that it may continue. A typical game can take over a year to play.

And, that's just a few. It's early in the morning here and the brain isn't fully functioning.

Nonetheless, all decisions belong to t_ras in this game! Just pointing out a couple things for you.

Also, welcome to the online world of SMAC!

	25-02-2002 11:53									#17
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dont worry pal- i'm not playing....

and thanks!

	25-02-2002 11:57									#18
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Right... yeah... you're name's not in the player's list.
I need more coffee, apparently.
Sorry for interfering!
Good luck and enjoy!

	25-02-2002 23:50									#19
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I'll play as University if you still need players.

	26-02-2002 00:08									#20
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quote: Originally posted by t_ras so...what we have by now: Comstr-PK's Darsnan(wellcome pal!)-Gaians Archaic-UNI

Hi sjkane,
welcome aboard! Unfortunately, Archaic has claimed the Uni's in this game. How about the Believers?

	26-02-2002 00:08									#21
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only beleabers left

	26-02-2002 00:27									#22
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if we get an answer from sjkane today
we may begin with settings and start tomorrow

	26-02-2002 01:07									#23
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Sorry. I mis-read Archaic's post. I've never played the Believer's before, but I'll give it a go. I'm pretty easy going on the preferences, but tend to like to build. As a result, bigger is better as far as map size goes. Other than that, let's go!

	26-02-2002 01:44									#24
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settings (unless there's any unanymous reject):

ONLY WINNING BY TRACENDECE!!!
GAME IS ACCELERATED (you all have 5 citys+some techs by now)
thinker level (be brave...)
pods on
blind research off
random events on
spoils of war on
larg ramdom map (edited a litle )
all the rest avarage and defaults

probing allowed without warning (since is tracendence win it is inportant...)
do not use upgrade from workshop
bla,bla,bla....

list of players:
Darsnan-Gaians
Comstr-PK's
Archaic-UNI
SJkane-Beleavers

any critics/sugestions/ect.?

if i dont get any untill tomorrow i'll send turn to Darsnan...

GOOOD LUCK!

Last edited by t_ras on 26-02-2002 at 01:49

	26-02-2002 01:56									#25
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What's the do not upgrade via workshop rule?

Can we talk or do we wait until contact?

comstar@optushome.com.au btw.

	26-02-2002 02:07									#26
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right...forgot this-no tolks untill contact,
BUT! the moment you all contact i would like to see all
your retorics abilitys here (just for the fun of it )

there aperently is (us far as i know...)some kind of bug
when using the units upgrade through workshop...sorry no use...
any thing else?

	26-02-2002 02:13									#27
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quote: Originally posted by t_ras probing allowed without warning (since is tracendence win it is inportant...) do not use upgrade from workshop bla,bla,bla....

OK, I'm not quite clear on the "blah blah blah" part.

Is this SMAC or SMAX? Also, as far as the Upgrade Workshop is concerned: first I've heard of a bug here. How are we supposed to upgrade our units to desired specifications then?

Looks good otherwise: The Green Meanies (a.k.a. The Gaians) are chomping at the bit, ready to go!

D

	26-02-2002 02:24									#28
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1) it's smac
2) you CAN make new units (you dont have to... )
but you cant use the option to upgrade all units....

i hope the blah,blah,blah means nothing

	26-02-2002 02:37									#29
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I'd prefer no accelerated start. It's not as good as you make it out to be. Terrible base placement, etc. I'd prefer Spoils off as well if this is trancend only. Otherwise, no problems.

	26-02-2002 02:45									#30
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I'm with Archaic on the "no accelerated start" choice. Indifferent as to the rest.