21-12-2000 21:10									#1
	Economic/Industrial effects of advances Increase Your PM Length

Well, I think diplomat's idea of social effects of advances has some merit (see his thread), but I think the effects should be more economic and industrial.

In Civ2, to benefit from certain advances you had to build a specific structure. All well and good. But some advances are so broad-based, that I think you should obtain a benefit from them automatically. To cite an example from CtP2, the first civ to discover concrete gets +5% production for 25 (?) turns. I think it would make more sense for all civs to get a permanent boost in production based on technology. This would also be true of economics. Still, these gains should be modest: without infrastructure, even a space-faring civilisation can only do so much.

The real payoff should come with making certain improvements more effective. Just as mysticism increased the effect of temples in Civ 2, so might Space-Age Materials, to make something up, increase the benefits of factories.

	22-12-2000 02:15									#2
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I like this idea. I havent played CtP II yet, so I dont know exactly what you mean. Do you mean that when you research another tech, and resieve it, then there is an auto thing it does, like temples with happiness? for example:

(this one is one I made up)
Advanced Mobile Warfare - boosts armor of tanks by 25%, boosts firepower by 25%.

is that what you mean, something like that?

	22-12-2000 04:01									#3
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It works like that, but only for a handful of techs:


Concrete, Mass Production, Robotics: +5% production for 15 turns
Gunpowder: -5 city defense for all other civs for 15 turns
Computer: +5% research for 15 turns
Life Extension: +2 happiness for 15 turns

	22-12-2000 05:02									#4
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hmm.. those exactly like the Feats of Wonder in CTP2... Not sure I liked them.

The civ's with tech leads usually have a nice advantage as it is. I wouldn't complain if this feature were added, but I don't see that it makes the game any more fun. Just different.
[This message has been edited by hHydro (edited December 21, 2000).]