20-12-2000 07:17									#1
	Canals Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

Why don't they add in Canals?

that way you can send ships over land without having to have cities on a tile with water on both sides....

In Civ II, on the world map, if I didn't make a city where Panama is, I would loose any hold I would have on the Europe/Asia when I expanded.... (you know how hard it is to get ships from Japan to New York without going through the "Panama Canal" city that I own?)

Until I built railroads, there was no point in trying to conquer anywhere that I couldn't go in a few turns... unless I had mega-cities that could pump out units every turn

	20-12-2000 08:46									#2
	Full PM-box? Change here!

we were just talking about this very thing on another thread, dang though, I cant remember the name. any way, I personally love the idea.

	20-12-2000 18:16									#3
	Got spare money?

Canals should be in, but they should be very expensive and take a long time to build.

And the thing with cities being automatic canals, never understood that. This is totally unrealistic and should be fix.

	21-12-2000 10:33									#4
	Tired of ads?

good idea...but it should also be available to build longer channles (of course for a high price)......and PLEASE let small ships use riversystems

	21-12-2000 10:36									#5
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

The player should only be able to build canals max two squares, and only in the form of below two alternatives:

- City-tile > canals > ocean (or sea/river)
- Ocean (or sea/river) > canals > ocean (or sea/river)


Otherwise, the whole idea gets both unrealistic and inflationary.

	20-12-2000 23:15									#6
	Support Apolyton

I think players should be able to terraform grassland, plain and desert tiles into river tiles provided they connect to existing rivers or coast. Small ships like coracles, triremes and longships could enter these automatically. A second level of terraforming could turn existing river tiles into canals and allow galleons and the like to sail through. If you want to go further and have battleships in rivers you really need to differentiate between river mouths (max 2 tiles inland) and smaller rivers. Normally the only time ships this size went into rivers its to reach a port so the city adjacent to a coast is probably good enough.

	21-12-2000 01:50									#7
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Like the Mississippi River has had battleships and stuff on it, but by the CivII standards, it wouldn't do anything....

if you think about it, most cities are founded on rivers, and they have major battleships go by them

I can only think of a few cities that are completely land-locked (can't get a ship from there to an ocean)

So basically, you have Las Vegas' throughout the game, heh

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