24-02-2002 21:55									#1
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I have one every way except for a cultural victory. I can't seem to win this way. I thought you had to get over 100,000 cutural points or 20,000 in one city. I have done this but still hasn't worked. Anyone know what you have to do and have any tips on doing it?

	24-02-2002 22:24									#2
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Hi
I just got a cultural victory in 1822; my first without doing any reloading cheating. Played at Monarch with a huge map and the barbs turned off.
I think you only need 20,000 cultural points in one city; but that is very difficult. If I am correct the easier way is to get 100.000 cultural ponts for your whole civ plus you have to have twice as many as the next highest civ.
I got the 100.000 and then attacked Persia who was next highest; reduced them to almost nothing. This seemed to work eventually. Civ cultural values go down (and up) very slowly). Cultural values of temples double after a thousand years so try and build them before about 700AD so that you get the bonus before the game runs out.

	25-02-2002 02:21									#3
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I find it easier to get the 20,000 in one city, than 100,000 over the whole civ. You just build all the wonders with a decent culture rating in the one city.

	25-02-2002 02:24									#4
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Cultural victory seems to be a bit boring really, and is very difficult to achieve on deity anyway. You should conquer the world, it's much more fun

	25-02-2002 04:30									#5
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quote: Originally posted by DrFell Cultural victory seems to be a bit boring really, and is very difficult to achieve on deity anyway. You should conquer the world, it's much more fun

What's the fun in conquering the world when all you have are worthless cities due to corruption? Now if i could actually do something with these cities, it would then be fun.

BTW: Too many cities under communism screws you over also. So that is not the answer.

(i'm just pissed off about the way the AI trades techs in the 1.17 patch and venting a little.)

	25-02-2002 06:16									#6
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20000 in a city is way easier. Get that city poping out the Pyramid and Oracle ASAP! With that in mind, just keep building wonders in that one city. Just be cool and all the other civs will just love you to now end.

	25-02-2002 07:53									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Thrawn05 20000 in a city is way easier. Get that city poping out the Pyramid and Oracle ASAP! With that in mind, just keep building wonders in that one city. Just be cool and all the other civs will just love you to now end.

How can I build other cities while building these wonders so early on?

	25-02-2002 08:07									#8
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quote: Originally posted by SK138 How can I build other cities while building these wonders so early on?

Hope for a settler from a goodie hut.

Seriously. It is damn near impossible to get the early wonders on all but the easier levels. The only way is to give up expansion in favor of the wonder. Unless you are at war and get leaders. But they seem rare early in the game.

	25-02-2002 12:40									#9
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I just won a OCC monarch with the culture victory. Seems kinda cheap way to win.

	25-02-2002 16:26									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DrFell Cultural victory seems to be a bit boring really, and is very difficult to achieve on deity anyway. You should conquer the world, it's much more fun

Yes its very difficult; thats why I find it interesting. Whats this fun business? I thought we were talking about Civ III.

Anyway you get your kicks your way and I'll get mine my way.

Agree with above that Cultural on Monarch is fairly easy; but am finding it impossible on Diety. Has anyone actually done it. Would like to hear. The Hall of fame on civ fanatics did not have any when I last looked.

	25-02-2002 22:48									#11
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quote: Originally posted by SK138 How can I build other cities while building these wonders so early on?

Build a settler, then place that settler in an area near lots of cows/wheats. That will be your settler making city. You want your captial in an area surrounded by a mix of mountains and grasslands (to increase population to 6).

	26-02-2002 02:20									#12
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I have always won by culture victory. I'm not sure how I did it but I have always built temple, col, lib, uni, lab in all my cities. And I also control most major Wonders. Of course, I built all (except the Iron Work) minor Wonders.

	26-02-2002 02:35									#13
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cultural victory is really annoying. right about when i'm gearing up for a proper war... bam! "you win!" crap pops up.

luckily, c3mt lets you disable it in existing save games, and i turn it off for new ones

hmm... i wonder if turning it off in a game i already won that way will let me keep playing and win properly...

	26-02-2002 02:40									#14
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quote: Originally posted by pauli hmm... i wonder if turning it off in a game i already won that way will let me keep playing and win properly...

I don't think you can change the victory condition in the middle of the game.