25-02-2002 05:14									#1
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Order of turns:

Germans - Scott F (sfluhr@indiana.edu)
Austro-Hungarians - El Awrence (m_carreras@hotmail.com
Italians - Soundwave (seanie_babes@hotmail.com)
Russians - Magyar Crusader (mihaly@jeszenka.com)
Allies - The ANZAC (theanzac@optonline.net)

I've started a new thread for this to make it more orderly. Anyway, I made the update, so please download it and replace your old files. Remember to load rulesendturn.txt at the end of your turn (sorry I didn't create a batch file to process this) to avoid the bug I had. I'm not sure if it will work or not but hopefully it will! If you want to know what changes I made just read the end of the last thread.

Germany's move. And again, I think this should be hotseat instead of PBEM. ANZAC, it's gonna be your responsibility to run delevent.exe on the game and load each year's events.

Attachment: update.zip
This has been downloaded 3 time(s).

	25-02-2002 05:25									#2
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OK, I'll remember that. Glad to see it's starting.

	25-02-2002 06:31									#3
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I'm italy again? DAMn, but okies!

	25-02-2002 06:56									#4
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Soundwave, if you want to be Russia... I'll gladly switch with you!!!

	25-02-2002 09:19									#5
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LOL i think not... hehe

	25-02-2002 14:39									#6
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MC, you didn't extend the western front fortification line all the way down to Switzerland. There is still a gap there.

Below are just minor nitpicks that I should have thought up and pointed out earlier, but didn't.

The Austrian-Italian front is still off a bit. The fortification line should run up from Trieste, east, and then down, to Trento, and then northwest until it touches the impassable units that shelter and surround the Bolshevik city.

As another minor nitpick, Venice is too far to the west, and to force the Italians to defend that pocket between Trieste and Trento, you should put another Italian city in there (Udine?).

There are also several open unit slots. These might be good for things like Serbian infantry, Rumanian infantry, Greek infantry, and even Belgian infantry (would be wiped out in the initial attack). Another possibility might be a flamethrower unit. That could replace the German infantry in the partisan slot, that way it could excel at killing machine guns.

Anyhow, I intend to do a few test plays to see how things go and post my turn tomorrow (unless you decide to do another quick update).

Also, if there is enough units space, can you arrange it so that the various allies can negotiate and talk with each other?

	25-02-2002 23:35									#7
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Damn!
I wanted to play in this PBEM! arg hehe
I still want to if anyone drops

	26-02-2002 00:31									#8
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(sigh)

I didn't completely trench off the border between Austria and Italy because I wanted some diversity and to allow at least some mobility. But if you guys really want it...

The extra unit slots would be doable. I do like the suggestion about the flamethrower unit.

However, I can't do any of this today... so if you want this update you'll have to wait till at least tomorrow.

SunTzu, if you want you can be Russia, and I'll sit this one out.

Last edited by MagyarCrusader on 26-02-2002 at 00:45

	26-02-2002 01:04									#9
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Nah i'll wait for the next one

	26-02-2002 06:18									#10
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Can we start soon please !!

	27-02-2002 04:51									#11
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quote: Originally posted by Scott F As another minor nitpick, Venice is too far to the west, and to force the Italians to defend that pocket between Trieste and Trento, you should put another Italian city in there (Udine?).

Actually, my dad comes from a town nearby Udine and during WWI it was a major headquarters for the Italians. When I visted it a while ago, I remember that there were many artillery implacements and fortifications still standing. So add Udine.

	27-02-2002 08:04									#12
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ANZAC, do you have any Australian or New Zealand heritage?

	27-02-2002 08:21									#13
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I do I do!!

I'm a New Zealander and my great grandads fought in WWI in France, and MY Grandads in WW2 in the New Zealand 1st &* 2nd Div that served in Africa, Italy, and France.

	27-02-2002 08:32									#14
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On of my Great Grand Uncles was killed at Lone Pine in Galipoli, and another earned the Military Cross for rescue work under machine gun fire in France.

*takes hat off to veterans of the NZ 2nd Division

	27-02-2002 20:58									#15
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How many cities are there on the map? It seems from eyeballing it that it's quite close to the 255 limit. If that is the case, why not just add enough cities to meet that limit?

Also, why does the Russian infantry have an amphibious tag?

	28-02-2002 05:14									#16
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Well Case, I don't have any NZ/Australia heritage. My dad is Italian and my mom's heritage is so bastardized I don't know really. And IIRC I made my user name after seeing the movie Gallipoli And also it sounds cool

	01-03-2002 02:23									#17
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Well ANZAC if you are proud to bear the name, i'm proud that you have it!

*salutes Anzac

	01-03-2002 05:23									#18
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Thank you Soundwave! No rush on the update, but ...

	01-03-2002 06:56									#19
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Yea no wait at all

	05-03-2002 07:11									#20
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**** it, i don't have time to make another update. Sorry.

	06-03-2002 02:50									#21
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So does anyone else want to do what Scott said? I'm busy myself.

	06-03-2002 03:12									#22
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So no update, no PBEM??

	06-03-2002 04:37									#23
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I can still do a PBEM game. Finishing a turn is easy. Fixing the map, changing rules, adding new units, updating the events, and testing the changes for bugs... it's an entirely different matter. I'm still willing to play if you guys want to.

	06-03-2002 06:37									#24
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I'll play!!! Lets do it!! you update you did so far is ok with me!

just send it to me and lets play!

	07-03-2002 03:04									#25
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Sure, let's start!

	07-03-2002 03:08									#26
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Ok Anzac you start your the Allies!

	07-03-2002 03:36									#27
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I might be able to do the update (outside of the event files), but I won't be able to do it until I finish my exams on Thursday.

	07-03-2002 03:42									#28
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Ok we'll wait then. If nobody minds

	07-03-2002 03:45									#29
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I dont mind, i'm in no hurry
!!

	07-03-2002 03:55									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Soundwave I dont mind, i'm in no hurry !!

That's a surprise