25-02-2002 06:31									#1
	Has anyone noticed more civil disorders with 1.17 or is it just me? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

I have been playing a whole lot more since the 1.17 patch and I have noticed a whole lot more civil disorders. I am getting to the 1700-1900s and I have a democracy, everytime I wage war against someone, a bunch of cities riot. It never happened this bad before the 1.17 patch, does anyone know a way of keeping the cities from rioting without changing rules, and raising luxury rates? I have tried police stations and the suffrage wonder which really hasn't helped out much.

	25-02-2002 06:35									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Switch to communism for the duration of the war. Works best if you are playing a religious civ.

Other than that....try making love, not war.

	25-02-2002 18:24									#3
	Re: Has anyone noticed more civil disorders with 1.17 or is it just me? Put an end to popups!

quote: Originally posted by SK138 I have been playing a whole lot more since the 1.17 patch and I have noticed a whole lot more civil disorders. I am getting to the 1700-1900s and I have a democracy, everytime I wage war against someone, a bunch of cities riot. It never happened this bad before the 1.17 patch, does anyone know a way of keeping the cities from rioting without changing rules, and raising luxury rates? I have tried police stations and the suffrage wonder which really hasn't helped out much.

War weariness seems to hurt pretty bad. Democracies and Republics end up with lots of starving people who are forced into being entertainers. Elvis "will work for food".

However, I notice that with the new patch the city governors control happiness much better. Before, they used to screw up often, and let the city go into disorder. Now, they'll keep it content, at the expense of mass starvation.

	25-02-2002 18:33									#4
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

You can reduce starvation by using the luxury slider. Usually 10-20% helps. If the war goes longer, you may have to increase this.

	26-02-2002 02:01									#5
	Increase Your PM Length

I have luxuries anywhere from 40 to 80% and some cities are still in disorders. I think the governor manages happiness worse than before.

	26-02-2002 02:03									#6
	Suffering from ads?

Switch to republic. War weariness is nowhere near as bad.

	26-02-2002 03:16									#7
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

First off, stay a Republic, slightly more corruption is a fair trade off for WAY LESS war weariness. I've managed to have long lasting wars without ever exceeding 20% on the luxury slider.

The last game I played I was a democracy and operated in perpetual anarchry for almost 100 years as my government collapsed and then reformed as a democracy again (stupid me) and collapsed, even whilst have 80% on the luxury slider.