05-03-2002 09:52									#31
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Why did they name it anaconda? I would of called it Stinging Scorpion, Paralyzed Camel, Boxcutter, Possum, Hot Sand...anything. Just no Anacanda. It sounds dumb

	05-03-2002 10:42									#32
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so how many israeli's died today too? i believe they've lost more men since the operation enduring freedom began than the US has. And the israelis have it harder too, they're fighint among their homes and families. So we lost a few more men, i'm sorry, but did anyone really expect that this would be a casualty free conflict for america.?

	07-03-2002 04:45									#33
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quote: Originally posted by Alexander's Horse ... but even sadder is this war is going exactly the way some of us predicted it would from the start i.e. guerilla war, escalating casualties and no end in sight.

Why is that sad?

	07-03-2002 04:49									#34
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It's sad because some people have such a loose grip on reality, they believe that.

	07-03-2002 04:56									#35
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Wiggy's just pissed that none of the people dead are Europeans.

	07-03-2002 04:58									#36
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There are now (though not in Anaconda). 3 Danes and 2 Germans while disposing of unexploded SAMs

	07-03-2002 05:06									#37
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Well, this is different from Vietnam in that the nation which would supply weapons (Pakistan) can't do so on a large scale, or the US support swings to India.

I'm picturing something more like the balkan peacekeeping duties than vietnam.

	07-03-2002 05:07									#38
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quote: Originally posted by Ramo Wiggy's just pissed that none of the people dead are Europeans.

I'm just curious as to why exactly no coalition troops were involved in any of last week's rather intense battles, actually.

quote: There are now (though not in Anaconda). 3 Danes and 2 Germans while disposing of unexploded SAMs

Hm, that actually is extremely tragic. However, you're correct in that a) the deaths were in no way related to Anaconda, and b) the deaths were not really all that combat related either. There was no "hot zone" so to speak, it was an unrelated accident. Those go into their own separate category.

What I want to know is, why are all the major battles and operations in Afghanistan that involve massive and terrible losses of life America's problem? This is supposed to be a coalition!

	07-03-2002 05:10									#39
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quote: What I want to know is, why are all the major battles and operations in Afghanistan that involve massive and terrible losses of life America's problem? This is supposed to be a coalition!

8 dead is a massive loss of life? Way to reinforce the view that Americans don't have the belly for actually fighting a war. They were also lost in just two seperate incidents. Given that my country actually has more troops per capita in Afghanistan (in a combat role and under American command, BTW) than yours does, do you mind explaining how we're not fighting as allies?

	07-03-2002 05:13									#40
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quote: Given that my country actually has more troops per capita in Afghanistan (in a combat role and under American command, BTW) than yours does, do you mind explaining how we're not fighting as allies?

Easy. You aren't fighting.

	07-03-2002 05:14									#41
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Then that's the American commander's fault.

	07-03-2002 05:21									#42
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Really? Why isn't your country's Secretary of Snobisity or whatever complaining that all those Canadian troops in Afghanistan aren't doing anything important under America's commmand, and are instead costing the country millions in pointless support fees then?

Maybe because they're there to look nice on camera, win Bush's approval, and of course to avoid the massive political hit of ignoring the whole operation entirely in front of the world.

	07-03-2002 05:26									#43
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Check the command structure. Elements of the Princess Pat's LI are under a Canadian Lt Col, who is directly responsible to an American Col. As well, there are small contingents of troops under more local American command (including snipers involved in Anaconda). The Canadians go exactly where they're told. Maybe the US feels they're too valuable to endanger more than necessary?

	07-03-2002 05:30									#44
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So we have control over the Canadian military now? This just keeps getting better and better.

	07-03-2002 05:31									#45
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf So we have control over the Canadian military now? This just keeps getting better and better.

You just NOW figured out that the US is leading the operation?

You don't have control over the whole Canadian military, just the ones in Afghanistan that we contributed.

BTW, there's 20 Canadian snipers and commandos working in this operation right now. That's all the US asked for.

The other hundreds of Canadian troops are defending Kandahar airport.

	07-03-2002 05:33									#46
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf So we have control over the Canadian military now? This just keeps getting better and better.

The ones on the ground in Afghanistan, yes.

The ones massing along the border in preparation for the invasion, no.

	07-03-2002 05:36									#47
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I still don't get why Canada doesn't complain to us that their troops aren't being used much, despite their "massive" numbers (and support costs) in Afghanistan? That'd piss me off, if my minions were wasting dough like that on someone else's watch.

	07-03-2002 05:37									#48
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf I still don't get why Canada doesn't complain to us that their troops aren't being used much, despite their "massive" numbers (and support costs) in Afghanistan? That'd piss me off, if my minions were wasting dough like that on someone else's watch.

"Oh please, put our citizens lives on the line more than right now. Not enough of them are dying!"

	07-03-2002 05:38									#49
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Sure, Wiggy. That's why our Min Nat Def just warned us to "be ready for Can. casualties".

	07-03-2002 05:40									#50
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf I still don't get why Canada doesn't complain to us that their troops aren't being used much, despite their "massive" numbers (and support costs) in Afghanistan? That'd piss me off, if my minions were wasting dough like that on someone else's watch.

Sounds to me like you'd rather hear about Brits and Canadians being killed than Terrorists...

	07-03-2002 05:41									#51
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Wiglaf: The reason the Canadians aren't fighting in the numbers you feel they should is due to the simple fact that we don't need them to. The reason the US hasn't asked them to is due to the simple fact that asking for military assistance to handle things in which assistance isn't required is stupid and wasteful.

	07-03-2002 05:43									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Richelieu Sounds to me like you'd rather hear about Brits and Canadians being killed than Terrorists...

Brits and Canadians are terrorists according to Wiggy.

	07-03-2002 05:47									#53
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The question is not: Wy donīt we fight?, but: Why are we even there? But if Wiglaf is right, and Europeans/Canadians donīt get involved much in fighting, that means: We have some reasonable commanders.

Speaking about the EU, what they most probably do is positioning themselves as the good guys: 'Look, Afghanis, the evil Gringos are shooting at you, but we friendly Euros arenīt. We are just here for peacekeeping, bomb defusing and helping people. Therefore, after the war, remember: Gringos bad, Euros good!'

	07-03-2002 05:49									#54
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You bore me.

	07-03-2002 05:53									#55
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quote: Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat It's sad because some people have such a loose grip on reality, they believe that.

I feel quite confident in my prediction

	07-03-2002 06:10									#56
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This US-Canadian sniping is about the stupidest thing in the world. All the troops in Anaconda are under the operational command of a US Major general (hollenbeck?) Its his job to WIN, to destroy al-qaeeda forces, and to use the resources at hand in the most effective way to achieve that end, not to establish casualty quotas by nationality.

LOTM

	07-03-2002 06:10									#57
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Whenever the creator of the Wiglaf DL is unmasked, I say we give him or her a medal. It's bloody brilliant. No one on Earth could possibly be this out-of-touch with reality without being locked up in a rubber room.

	07-03-2002 06:14									#58
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Hey Horse...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiap...rror/index.html

That's a big no-no under the Geneva Convention, dragging away soldiers and shooting them like that. You still think we ought to give those terrorist dogs in Cuba the right to jeopardize security for stupid things like wearing hats or whatever? They're lucky they get anything now, the monsters.

quote: Whenever the creator of the Wiglaf DL is unmasked, I say we give him or her a medal. It's bloody brilliant. No one on Earth could possibly be this out-of-touch with reality without being locked up in a rubber room.

Get off it. I've asked Ming to investigate the matter and post the results in the Community forum. He refused, so draw your own conclusions.

	07-03-2002 06:18									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Wiglaf Get off it. I've asked Ming to investigate the matter and post the results in the Community forum. He refused, so draw your own conclusions.

Oh, I've already drawn my own conclusions, as I'm sure you'll recall. However, I don't feel the need to clog 'Poly with that picture again--I might inadvertantly cause yet another crash. Suffice it to say that if you are, in fact, neither a DL, nor mentally unstable, then you are the biggest jackass I have ever had the misfortune to encounter, either online or off.

But enough of this pleasant threadjacking. Please, continue to expose yourself. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

	07-03-2002 06:20									#60
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quote: Originally posted by DinoDoc Wiglaf: The reason the Canadians aren't fighting in the numbers you feel they should is due to the simple fact that we don't need them to. The reason the US hasn't asked them to is due to the simple fact that asking for military assistance to handle things in which assistance isn't required is stupid and wasteful.

Are you with them or something? For a Republican you're doing a damn good job not listening to anything I'm saying at all. Here goes: Why doesn't the Canadian Secretary of Snobisity (Delightful Defense? I don't know) complain about how America is "wasting" his country's money in support costs by not using its troops already in the region?