09-01-2001 04:31									#1
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quote: In Civilization III you'll find borders (but even more realistic than in SMAC), unique benefits depending on the Civilization you choose, enhanced and more realistic diplomacy AI, build- queues and more ways to delegate commands for those who want to minimize micromanagement at later stages in the game

	09-01-2001 05:14									#2
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Woah! Settle down man! Unique benefits could mean anything, as in Civ II, you get certain civ advances at the beginging. I think they are just expanding on this.

I think Firaxis is trying to make this aspect more realistic, and more closely following history. I think this is very cool.

	09-01-2001 06:21									#3
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I hope these 'unique benefits' don't affect gameplay. I would like to think that they are not unique. Every Civ II player should know that you must kill the white Civ first as it is expansionist. If this would be implied onto human players the game would become to boring.

I do hope however that the Civs look different from one another.

	09-01-2001 07:03									#4
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Maybe, and hopefully, the unique units thing will be an option.

	09-01-2001 07:03									#5
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Ever play Warlords 2 Deluxe? The different sides had different graphics for the same units depending on 'culture'.

That's what I think it is, so US jets are F-15s, Russian jets are MiGs, Japanese crusaders are samurai ect.

One vital question: Has the fabled herd of Royal Viking War Elephants become extinct in this game??

	09-01-2001 08:51									#6
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If unique civs are like those in SMAC there would seem to be one major difference (at least I hope so):

MORE COMPUTER PLAYERS!

Each nation might act the same every time they are involved in the game, but unlike SMAC you would get 12 out of a possible 60 civs to play against. This would mean that there would never be the same number of expansionists, scientists, etc.

In the end unique civs may or may not add a level of fun, I do not think it is exactly the same as SMAC's unique groups.

	09-01-2001 09:49									#7
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I think that we should make a patition to tell Firaxis that while unique civs might be fun. That in the interest of multiplayerability and generality that unique civs be an option which can be turned off. I fine with the option of unique civs (and even beleive it is a good idea), I just don't think you should have to play that way. It should be a fairly simple fix.

Jon Miller

	09-01-2001 23:46									#8
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Don't get me wrong, I know that civs should differenciate and I know the white civs are always expansionists and the purple are always poor and stupid and expansionist and the orange are always bastard agressors, but...

If I choose to be a white civ, I don't want to be labled expansionist and have +25% army -25% money or something. That's stupid.

I agree that AI civs should have different personas. But they should be randomized for each game (within the boundaries of historical correctness or according to leaders, an idea I suggested many moons ago) and even should change about 3 or 4 times in one game because I as a human player often change my strategy, depending on my mood and on the success of that strategy in this specific game.

I think that costum graphics for each civ will be ok (though it's too much, there should be 6 max predefined types: western, classical, eastern etc.) as long as the actuall stats don't change.