05-03-2002 23:37									#1
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Can you please explain why a city with 28 can have 150 science.

Here comes the city:
1:Lib (50%)
2:Uni (50%)
3:Cope's (50%)
4:Newies (100%)

He has 90% used in science, in Democracy.
There is no day of Celibration.
He has not completed SETI's.
It is the capital.
4 of the 28 trade is from using caravans towards other nations.

My (grand) total of science in this city would be 3.5*25= 98
There is a diff. of 52.

Please explain what is causing this diff.

	06-03-2002 00:53									#2
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Have you count scientists? One scientist=3*3.5=10.5, 5 scientists=52.5 round down to 52.

	06-03-2002 08:56									#3
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28 trade x 90% = 25.2 science, round down to 25

library and university each add 1/2 of that (12 for library, 13 more for univ) = 50

Despite what the Civilopedia says, it's actually Copernicus that doubles science and Newton that adds half, not the other way around. These Wonders are multiplicative, so you get 50 x 2 x 1.5 = 150 science.

A research facility would add another 50% to the base, giving 62 x 2 x 1.5 = 186. I think SETI would also be additive rather than multiplicative, and only one or the other would take effect.

	06-03-2002 10:55									#4
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Xin Yu- There were no scientists.

Debeest- Thanks for explaining. This civilopedia brought me on the wrong foot I guess

	06-03-2002 10:57									#5
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Yep, I think debeest is right.

	06-03-2002 23:43									#6
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freshman tested and discovered that SirIsaac's college only increased improvement arrows, not the base trade created by the city's workers. C's Observatory doubles the whole base number.

Edit: In case anybody wants details, I think the thread was titled "The Science of Science", right here in the strategy forum...

	07-03-2002 01:50									#7
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I think it would be more accurate to say that Isaac (and Copernicus, I would have thought, but perhaps not) ONLY WORKS if there is a science improvement, but then multiplies the combined base-and-improvement science.