06-03-2002 02:44									#1
	Frontier Imperial Dip 1 Fall 1864 Moves Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Austria (Defiant) (+ Prs, + Sof)

A-SIL > PRS
A-BER S A-SIL > PRS
A-GLC > WRS (Bounce with Russia)
A-RMN > SOF
A-SR > RMN
A-BUD > WLC
A-VIE > SIL
A-VEN > CRT
A-STU S FRENCH A-KIE
A-ROM > SAL (Bounce)
F-SAL > ADR (Bounce)
F-ADR > ION (Bounce with Ottoman)

Brazil (Mensius) (+ Flk)

a pan to hon (Bounce with USA)
a bgt to pan (Bounce)
a lma holds
a ama holsd
f pra holsd
a rev holds
f rdj to b current
f drake sup f co arg to flk
f ctn holds
f co argentin to flk
f p.basin holds (Unordered)

Ottoman (Victor Galis) (+ Khv, - Sof)

A Trp-Tun (Bounce with France)
A Gre H
F Aeg-Ion
F EMed S F Aeg-Ion
F Black S F Bku[wc]-Grg[wc]
F Bku[wc]-Grg[wc] (Bounce with Russia)
A Syr-NEJ
F Cai-Red
F Sud S F Cai-Red
A Aby S F Sud
A Mec-Aden
F Oman S F Persian-Arabian
F Persian-Arabian (Bounce with England)
F Ban S A Krc
A Afg-Khv
A Krc S A Kashgar-Bokhara

MDR (Japan) (+ Que)

A SK -> HOLDS
F W.Pacific -> EQ.Countercurrent
F Kuril -> W.Pacific
F Izu -> Bismark
F Philippine -> Luzon
F Luzon -> Sunda
F MND -> HOLDS
F Celebes -> SUPPORTS Chinese F(Sunda) -> Java Sea
F Timor -> QUE
F NGU -> Timor
F Coral -> SUPPORTS F(Timor) -> QUE
F Tasman -> Barrier (Bounce with England)

China (Ruffhaus8)

A Kashmir - Rajputana (Bounce with England)
A Kashgar - Bokhara (Bounce with Russia)
A Khirgistan supports A Irkutsk - Krasnoyarsk
A Mongolia supports A Irkutsk - Krasnoyarsk
A Irkutsk - Krasnoyarsk
A Nei Mongol - Irkutsk
A Lanchow supports Mongolia - hold
A Vladivostok - Yakutsk
A Manchuria supports A Seoul - Vladivostok
A Seoul - Vladivostok
F Yellow Sea - East China Sea (Bounce)
F South China Sea - East China Sea (Bounce)
F Sunda Sea - Java Sea
F Gulf of Siam supports F Sunda Sea - Java Sea
F Malaysia supports F Sunda Sea - Java Sea
A Bangkok supports F Malaysia - hold
A Siam - Yuthia
A Annamm Tonking
A Rangoon supports A Bengal - hold
A Bengal supports A Rangoon - hold
A Tibet supports A Bengal - hold

Mexico (His Divine Shadow) (- Mer)

A Oax to Maz (Bounce with USA)
A Mxc sup A Oax to Maz (Support Broken)

USA (Lionheart)

1) F GoAlaska H
2) F Wsh - W.Bay
3) F Sfr - W.Coast
4) A Neb H
5) A Chi - Ohi
6) A Ssk - Mnn
7) A Nme - Son
8) A Maz S A Coa - Mxc (Support Broken)
9) A Coa - Mxc (Bounce with Mexico)
10) F GoCalifornia - Oax (Bounce with Mexico)
11) E. Pacific - Hawaii
12) F Tampa - GoMexico
13) F Cuba S F Tampa - GoMexico
14) F Bha S F Cub
15) F Atl - Tampa
16) F E. Seaboard - Sargasso (Bounce with France)
17) F Nyc S F (British) Chesapeake
18) F Hon S A (Brazil) Panama

England (El Awrence) (+ Sum, + Azo, - Flk, - Que, - Gb, - Dub)

01. F Anc H
02. A Vnc H
03. A Alb H
04. F Chesapeake S F Hudson > N Atlantic
05. F Nvs S F Hudson > N Atlantic
06. F Flk H (Dislodged, Destroyed)
07. F Sgr H
08. F Hudson > N Atlantic
09. A Den > Kie (Bounce with France)
10. A Fin H
11. F N Passage S F Hudson > N Atlantic
12. F North > Hol (Bounce with France)
13. F Hlg S A Den > Kie
14. F Lon S F Hudson > N Atlantic
15. F Biscay > Azo
16. F Red S F Ade (Support Broken, Dislodged, Destroyed)
17. F Ade S F Red (Support Broken)
18. A Raj S A Guj (Support Broken)
19. A Guj S A Raj
20. A Lck > Del
21. A Hyd > Lck
22. F Mad > M Channel
23. F W Indian > A Indian
24. F Arabian S F HoAfrica (Support Broken)
25. F HoAfrica S F Arabian
26. F BoBengal > Hyd
27. F Java > Sum
28. F Sp > Java (Bounce with China)
29. A Que H (Dislodged, retreats to Ntr or Sau)
30. F Prt S F SeTrades > Barrier
31. F Jva S F SP > Java
32. F SE Trades > Barrier
33. Goodhope S F W Indian > A Indian

France (The Orange One) (+ Mer, + Gb, + Dub, - Sum, - Azo)

1. F-Andaman > B.Bengal
2. F-Fij H
3. F-Nsw H
4. A-Vlc > Gb
5. F-W.Med > Tun
6. F-Tyr S F-W.Med > Tun
7. F-Mrc > W.Med
8. F-Sgb > Biscay
9. F-Canary S F-N.Atl
10. F-N.Atl S A-Nan (Support Broken, Dislodged, Destroyed)
11. F-Sargasso S F-N.Atl (Support Broken)
12. F-Hai S F-Sargasso
13. F-Vrg S F-Hai
14. F-W.Car > Mer
15. F-G. Panama S F-Glp
16. F-Glp S F-G.Panama
17. F-Cyn H
18. F-NE Trades S F-Sargasso
19. F-M.Atl S F-Okn > S.Atl
20. F-Tir > Mrc
21. A-Ivc > Dmk
22. F-Okn > S.Atl
23. A-Agl > Rho (Bounce with Holland)
24. F-A.Atl S F-Okn > S.Atl
25. A-Nan S A-Rou
26. A-Rou S A-Hol
27. A-Hol S A-Kie (Support Broken)
28. A-Kie S A-Hol
29. SW Pacific: H (unordered)

Holland (Chazzy)

A: Trn: H
A: Rho: H
F: Cel: H
F: Bor s A Srw
A: Srw s F Bor

Russia (Boshko) (NMR, All units support each other) (- Prs, - Khv)

A: Eve s A Kra
A: Tsh s A Bkh
A: Kra s A Eve (Support Broken, Dislodged, Retreats to Oms or Orn
A: Bkh s A Tsh (Support Broken)
A: Grg s A Sev
A: Mos s A Grg
F: Prs: H (Dislodged, Retreats to Liv)
A: Sev s A Wrs
A: Wrs s F Prs (Support Broken)
F: Stp: H

Invasion Report.

USA nets 2 Builds

Mexico Disbands 1 unit

Brazil takes Flk and nets 2 Builds

England Takes Sum and Azo but disbands 3 units

France takes Mer, Gb and, Dub and nets 2 Builds

Holland nets nothing

Austria gets Sof and Prs and nets 2 Builds

Russia Disbands 2 units

Ottoman gets Khv and net no builds

China nets 2 Builds

Japan gets Que and nets 1 Build

SC Report

USA - ORG SFR CHI DET WDC RCM ATL NOL AUS MAZ NYO Neb Wsh Nme Kan Okl Bha Haw Cub Hon - 20
Mexico - MXC - 1
Brazil - BRA RDJ OLI REC CTN FLK Lpa Prg Uru Lma Brc Bgt Pan - 13
England - VNC QBC NVS LON EDI ADE DEL BOM SP PRT ANC CEY JVA SUM Azo Vct Grn Nor Den Srg Swe Alb Mds Yuk Sey Mad Mld Amn - 28
France - SCT NAN PAR MRS CRS MNV GCS CYN PRM RUH HOL MER GB DUB Pie Ivc Vrd Sic Fij Tun Vrg Cmn Nze Hai Okn Glp Vlc Sie Kie Mrc Nsw - 31
Holland - TRN BOR Bot Srw Rho - 5
Austria - VIE VEN CRT BUD BER SIL SOF PRS Rom Sr Sal Bav Rmn Stu - 14
Ottoman - CAI CON CYP ANG BAG Ban Cre Bku Gr Sud Trp Oma Teh Aby Krc Khv - 16
Russia - STP WRS SEV MOS GRG ORN OMS Tsh - 8
China - MNC PEK SHA CAN WUH CHK SNK PA HK CMB CCH VLA IRK Tnk Brm Ben Yut Ran Bnk Seo Fsn Kas Mls - 23
Japan - SAP EDO KG OKI Luz Crl Mnd Mhl Fm Ija Ngu Sk Que - 13

Player contacts

GM- Du_Chateau
Email - "mailto:du_chateau@yahoo.com"
ICQ - 44369275

Britain - El Awrence (Erwin Rommel)
Email - "mailto:hodad1984@mixmail.com"
ICQ - 102139615

France - The Orange One
Email - "mailto:the_orange1@hotmail.com"
ICQ - 109943271

Holland - Chazzy
Email - "mailto:chazzy@execpc.com"
ICQ - none

Austria - Defiant
Email - "mailto:defiant@coredcs.co"
ICQ - 46172786

Russia - Boshko
Email - "mailto:dboshko@wesleyan.edu"
ICQ - 37211450

Ottoman - Victor Galis
Email - "mailto:VictorG@aol.com"
ICQ - 47756253

China - Ruffhaus8
Email - "mailto:ruffhuas8@aol.com"
ICQ - 63418710

Japan - MDR
Email - "mailto:mikedr@gte.net"
ICQ - None

USA - Lionheart (Orange)
Email - "mailto:OrangeSfwr@aol.com"
ICQ - 91875872

Mexico - His Divine Shadow
Email - "mailto:zeon_archduchy@hotmail.com"
ICQ - None

Brazil- Menius
Email - "mailto:Menius@hotmail.com"
ICQ - 18449905

Eliminated

Prussia (Bearcat) - Spring 1863

CSA (Secretariat) - Fall 1861

Retreats are due ASAP
Builds are due Friday at 5:30 PM PST
Fall 1864 moves due at 5:30 PM PST Saturday March 16, 2002

P.S. Check for Errors
P.S.S. Press is still voluntary.
P.S.S.S Builds are in the Invasion Report.

Last edited by Du_Chateau on 07-03-2002 at 05:56

	06-03-2002 03:51									#2
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Thanks Du,

Now we just need the map...

	06-03-2002 04:07									#3
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I'm on it

	06-03-2002 04:52									#4
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Please check for errors...

www.angelfire.com/rpg2/orange/imperialfall1864.gif

Also: error in moves. As far as I can tell A Mecca - Aden fails 1v1 with British F Aden...but it is marked as succeeding (or, at least, no failing) and British F Aden was only marked as having its support cut, not being dislodged, so on the map I didn't move either unit.

I'll update the map with retreats when everyone gets them in.

Can we PLEASE get someone to play Russia? These NMRs are really letting China steamroll, and we wouldn't want that, now would we Ruffhaus?

	06-03-2002 06:37									#5
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Oh, who's turn is it then to butt rape the Englishman then next turn? Please tell me in advance, I have Washington, Istambul and Peking all lined up. If you want to participate in "Butt Rape the Englishman" get a number in London and you shall have your turn.

	06-03-2002 15:11									#6
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My fleet in N.Atlantic is not destroyed, it can retreat to Dublin....confirm please.

This would mean I still have 2 builds, but Britain would have 3 disbands.

Last edited by the_orange1 on 06-03-2002 at 17:08

	06-03-2002 15:26									#7
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Map error: Austrian A-Ven should be in Crt

	06-03-2002 17:05									#8
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orange1- is that where you want your retreat? If so, I'll update the map with both changes (yours and the Austrian one)

	06-03-2002 17:27									#9
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Yes please, won't be there long, but enough time for a pint of Guinness or two

	06-03-2002 18:37									#10
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Map updated with French retreat and Austrian A Croatia

Still need British and Russian retreats

	06-03-2002 20:17									#11
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Hoggy,
I would jump on the buttwagon but you are just not that tight for me anymore.

	06-03-2002 20:19									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Hoggy, I would jump on the buttwagon but you are just not that tight for me anymore.

LMAO!!

Hoggy has the grand canyon of *******s in this game.

	06-03-2002 22:34									#13
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Disband A Oax

As the USA scribes its Constitution in my flesh with a knife and inks its words with salt. . .

	07-03-2002 03:14									#14
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Due to a lack of private communications (see Lion in the North thread for reasons on that), the sultan has decided to make the following statement public.

To the infidels occupying Aden:

If you disband your fleet in the port of Aden and surrender it to the most holy warriors of Allah (us), we will be able to end our Jihad against you. That would allow you to focus on your more fiendish and dangerous enemies. The Sultan believes that one small province should not be worth all the armies that are currently fighting for it.

(Consider this your best chance to have one less country ass-raping you.)

	07-03-2002 05:50									#15
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Moves Corrected,

If I do not recieve retreats by 12:00 PM PST tommorrow the units will retreat OTB. The people that have to give retreats had already been notified yesterday.

Last edited by Du_Chateau on 07-03-2002 at 05:57

	07-03-2002 06:05									#16
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gotta specify what was corrected. Did it change the map at all?

	07-03-2002 07:07									#17
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Retreat NTR.

And start looking for a replacement player for Britain too while you're at it please.

	07-03-2002 08:11									#18
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quote: Originally posted by El Awrence And start looking for a replacement player for Britain too while you're at it please.

Quitter!

:is extremely pissed off:

	07-03-2002 09:24									#19
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to orn

	07-03-2002 18:56									#20
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Hoggy,
This is only a game, if you can't handle it and have to quit, I suggest you quit the entire site, give up all games you GM and play and get out of my sight. I have ZERO tolerance for baby actions and this qualifies.

If you want to do the right thing, stay in the game, play a kingmaker, do a suicide attack, whatever, but stay in the game.

The choice is yours.

	07-03-2002 19:41									#21
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quote: Originally posted by Defiant Hoggy, This is only a game, if you can't handle it and have to quit, I suggest you quit the entire site, give up all games you GM and play and get out of my sight. I have ZERO tolerance for baby actions and this qualifies. If you want to do the right thing, stay in the game, play a kingmaker, do a suicide attack, whatever, but stay in the game. The choice is yours.

I've tried talking to him, it's no use. His mind is made up. But I second Defiant's words. There's still a LOT you can do with your nation, Hoggy, hell you have 28 centers!!!

	08-03-2002 02:15									#22
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The truth is, I have been disillusioned at dip since something like last november. I never brought it up, I think it would just pass.

I am very well thinking of leaving altogether anyway, I just don't get a kick out of it anymore, I don't know why, I just barely find the willpower to do any dipping. And now the time constraints worsen an already bad situation.

	08-03-2002 02:23									#23
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Hang in there, Larry!

It's all that time that you spend in the Frontier Off Topic Forum that's sapping your interest....

	08-03-2002 02:51									#24
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Also, if I am going to leave, I may as well turn over a Britain that can still fight, than turn over a mercy position.

	08-03-2002 04:13									#25
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At least turn in some disbands, that way we can start a fresh year with a new England.

I'm telling you lose, F Aden, and there will be one less person out to get you.

	08-03-2002 04:39									#26
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Actually, the problem here, El Awrence, is that losing you would put a few games in dire straits. The smaller games you're in should have no problem, but these larger games (Frontier & Dip 50) are already sapping most of the players on the site. If you do drop these, we'll have to find entirely new players in already struggling games. It could very well kill them...

That's just a cynical point of view, though. We really like having you around. Besides, who else could pull off an evil Arch-Villain that flings winged pigs...

	08-03-2002 07:12									#27
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Builds have been extended till Saturday at 5:30 PM PST.

The moves corrected are the moves that were in error mostly so it would not change tha map.

	08-03-2002 08:18									#28
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Heheh. I'd still turn in moves if no replacement is found by deadlines, but I'm asking that the search for a replacement commence. I don't want to kill the games wither.

MDR, I'm not going to quit Dip 50 because of its particular history, not in the near future at least.

	08-03-2002 19:06									#29
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quote: MDR, I'm not going to quit Dip 50 because of its particular history, not in the near future at least.

Like it matters, you NMRd last turn!