08-03-2002 21:42									#1
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My suggestion for improving the game is to make the barbarians open to be played by humans. What could be more fun, especially in multiplayer conditions, than preying on cities and shipping? To crush your enemies, see them driven before
you, and to hear the lamentations of their women!!
Who's with me?
I would rule in the warrior tradition of Ghengis Khan, and my first act as barbarian king will be to abolish the spaceship and diplomatic victory conditions.

	08-03-2002 21:51									#2
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Yawn

	08-03-2002 21:54									#3
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THis would be a decent idea for MP, let's see the leftie come up with reasons against it, rather than 'yawning'

	08-03-2002 22:09									#4
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I'm all for this! a world conspirasy, all anarchic powers and forces of revolution around the world and through the ages are controlled by a single consiousness!

	08-03-2002 22:24									#5
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quote: Originally posted by ACooper Yawn

Wow, that's constructive.

	08-03-2002 23:39									#6
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Yes!

	08-03-2002 23:57									#7
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Let me explain why I'm so sleepy:


"My suggestion for improving the game is to make the barbarians open to be played by humans."

No problem with this, except: Where would they be based? How would they survive? What units would they use? How would they be different from a regular civ?


"hear the lamentations of their women!!"

Oh please. Give me a break!


"Who's with me? "

This pounding guy should be banned!


"I would rule in the warrior tradition of Ghengis Khan, and my first act as barbarian king will be to abolish the spaceship and diplomatic victory conditions. "

Spaceship victory has been there from the original. It is as much a part of Civ as anything. (Reminder: Civ is not a wargame!)

The mad guy looks constipated.


The reason I yawn is that this is another request that does not fit in with the true nature of a Civ game. If you all want it that's fine, but what is the point?

	08-03-2002 23:59									#8
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Lighten up, Coop. Ban yourself.

	09-03-2002 00:03									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Brutus66 Lighten up, Coop. Ban yourself.

Huh?

Give me details and you might convince me to join your cause.

	09-03-2002 00:20									#10
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I think the idea sucks, but that's just me, dont take it personnaly. But why dont you just go in the editor and make your own Barbarian civ?

Spec.

	09-03-2002 00:21									#11
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"The reason I yawn is that this is another request that does not fit in with the true nature of a Civ game. If you all want it that's fine, but what is the point?"

Hey, take it easy, if people want to suggest playing as Barbarians, why shouldn't they? I certainly would like the option, just to change things round a bit.
We all paid for the game, dammit! We should be allowed to express opinions on it.

(I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not actually annoyed with you, ACooper, I just think you should allow people to comment on the game if they so wish)

	09-03-2002 00:43									#12
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The idea really is, spec, a completely different paradigm than a conventional civ. No base, per se.
What I am really suggesting is an idea for the next incarnation of the game, rather than something that can be worked into the current model.
Not everyone wants to be a peaceful builder all the time, and this alternative, I thought, would be fun.
I would propose no research or any of the usual stuff (or have it scaled down) for the barbies- the idea being to raid and ransom your way to the top.
I realize that this is too radical for a lot of folks, but oh well. I never could understand the traditionalist's point of view- their reason for doing things in a particular manner is "we've always done it that way." Same with the spaceship thing- it was there before, so it should stay forever...

	09-03-2002 01:07									#13
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i think playing as barbarians in civ2 would ave so ruled. but it would suck in civ3.

	09-03-2002 01:30									#14
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quote: Originally posted by The Andy-Man i think playing as barbarians in civ2 would ave so ruled. but it would suck in civ3.

It was possible in civ2, it just kind of didn't work very well. Your units would move by themselves unless you caught them first. It was quite strange.

	09-03-2002 01:35									#15
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civ2 on dope.....

	09-03-2002 02:53									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Scooby_Doo "The reason I yawn is that this is another request that does not fit in with the true nature of a Civ game. If you all want it that's fine, but what is the point?" Hey, take it easy, if people want to suggest playing as Barbarians, why shouldn't they? I certainly would like the option, just to change things round a bit. We all paid for the game, dammit! We should be allowed to express opinions on it. (I'd just like to make it clear that I'm not actually annoyed with you, ACooper, I just think you should allow people to comment on the game if they so wish)

He commented, I commented. Everybody commented, everybody wins. Nobody was mentioned by name until others brought it up.

You say "yea", I say "nea", in the end we all play our own way.

BTW, Scooby, I'm the original S-h-a-g-g-y. Been here a looong time. They made me change my name because sh*g is considered offensive by some. Sit down, we'll have a Scooby snack together.

	09-03-2002 05:54									#17
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I don't like the idea!

Saluti

	09-03-2002 06:32									#19
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Interesting idea for a multiplayer game. I don't see why people are against it. Just think how dangerous the barbarians would be when controlled by human intelligence. As the barbs stand now they are pushovers.

	09-03-2002 07:17									#20
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I don't see the point either.

Barbarians do have camps where their units are produced. Civs have cities where their units are produced.

The only difference is that another civ capturing a city gets to keep (or raze) the new city, whereas capturing a camp will just get them some money. Also, new camps just appear in uncontrolled areas.

Why not just play where you build heaps of units and just attack attack attack??

	09-03-2002 23:08									#21
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No offence intended by referring to you by name, i just thought it was actually less offensive to direct my post than not.

Anyway, you've got it right, we all play our own way.

I'll have to take you up on that Scooby snack sometime!