17-03-2002 03:01									#1
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Chinese, Deity. Archipelago

This start is awesome, except for a few problems. Your special unit requires horses, and the nearest source is an island reachable by galley, except it is right offshore of an AI.

You share the continent with two AIs, but you'll get to this part first.

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	17-03-2002 03:06									#2
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Edit: Damn, the save won't attach.

	17-03-2002 03:09									#3
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here's a try with a zip file.

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	17-03-2002 03:43									#4
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That's mind-boggling.

I wish there were an option for "good starts" so Ididn't have to Ctrl-Sh-Q so much.

	17-03-2002 21:40									#5
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Wow, is this for real? I have never in countless starts seen such a starting location. For that matter I don't think I've seen that many specials/luxuries in close proximity at all.

	18-03-2002 04:20									#6
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holy crapyour riders dont need horses

theyve got COWS!!!

	18-03-2002 15:52									#7
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike Wow, is this for real?

Yea. Though I wish it had horses. But thats kind of like wishing that your planetary party lounge had blue bowling pins instead o white. I mean, what is with the "planetary party lounge" anyway. My colonists should be serious, not party animals.

OK, major digression there. India cheats and gets the cows first, but you can build archers right off the bat and they don't have bronze working. So it is easy to take the city from them. I got a leader in a later war with them and I'm gonna rush the GL. Wish me luck.

	18-03-2002 16:03									#8
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WOW!!

good for you!!

	18-03-2002 17:40									#9
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FP first!

	20-03-2002 11:57									#10
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quote: Originally posted by DrSpike FP first!

	20-03-2002 14:24									#11
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Sorry, that wasn't clear. I was saying getting the forbidden palace up early is far far more important than getting the GL. You can buy the techs you would have got. IMO the FP is the most important small/great wonder in the game.

	20-03-2002 17:25									#12
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I'm playing the game and built the Pyramids. FP wasn't available and I don't want to block the possibility for more leaders. I'm lacking both Iron and Horses. Well, lemme see if I make it.

	20-03-2002 17:33									#13
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All you need is 8 cities to make the FP available. If you don't have 8, keep one or two conquered ones, or build some more.

I don't get why having the FP blocks getting leaders.

	20-03-2002 22:57									#14
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No in deity is more important to survive... and the techs are unvaluable.

	21-03-2002 07:53									#15
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quote: Originally posted by godinex No in deity is more important to survive... and the techs are unvaluable.

Also, this was a war on my continent, so FP wasn't even useful enough to be a consideration. Thats why the abbreviation confused me.

Unfortunately, the AI built the GL right before I discovered lit.

	21-03-2002 12:54									#16
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Lucky you. I had a game where I was trying to figure out how the Romans were kicking my butt so badly. When I traded maps finally, I discovered that they had a "herd" similar to this and they had built 3 cities to take advantage of it. Luckily the rest of their cities didnt have such advantages.