18-03-2002 07:59									#1
	diplomatic victory Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I have enjoyed my first good game of civ3. I am whooping the computer in everything. ie I'm in the modern age and they're all in the medieval ages. I didn't want the game to end yet, but I didn't know how to start the vote so when it asked me I said yes. Since I was at war with England and I had almost destroyed them, Elizabeth was mad at me. I didn't worry about winning because you're supposed to get every vote to win. I got 5 votes and Cleo got 3. And then it said I won the game! I don't want it to end. Why did this happen? Though I did select 'Just lemme play a couple more turns', I want to not have to stop. And how many more turns does it let you play?

	18-03-2002 10:44									#2
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I have this victory disabled, but i think you only need a majority (or a plurality ...not sure exactly which...) to win. After you do win, you can keep playing for as long as you like, but no score will be accumulated.

	20-03-2002 14:35									#3
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To avoid frustration, or embarassment, build the UN. When it asks you for a vote, say no. Diplomatic victory will then be bypassed.

If you are unable to build the UN by the early Modern Age, pack it in. You prolly won't win.

Say yes to UN vote if you are tiring of your game and wish to record a *win* in the Hall of Fame AND are very sure how the votes will go.

	20-03-2002 14:39									#4
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Note. It is a simple majority.

If you wish to bail in your game and still *win*, make sure you give many gifts to as many civs as possible immediately prior to completion of the UN. Start with the border line civs. The ones who aren't extatic about you.

Some people give cities.