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Hey, do y'all think the village idiot hat is too small for wiggy and blackice to share?
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To find the Northwest Passage
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Nope. But I was getting my A+ certification (building and repairing computers). |
What is A+ certification?
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Kaak
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haha...now that is a classic quote
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Jon Miller
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How come a thread that starts so boring goes for so long
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Tingkai
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To find the Northwest Passage
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time: 13:18
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Originally posted by Jon Miller
How come a thread that starts so boring goes for so long
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I'm just wasting time until a freelance assignment comes in. It was supposed to be here 20 minutes ago.
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Kaak
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because it is 3:40 in the morning, and i am stuck at work with nothing else to do.
because DM will stay up just to argue with me.
because it takes LR 4 pages to realize he proved my point.
and finally because blackice is a rambling bafoon.
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Kaak
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hahahahahahaha @ ting
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Kaak
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blackice: one of two things is happening.
1) you have taken too many drugs, and you need to go to sleep
2) you have a computer virus, and are obviously not reading the same thread as anyone else here.
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nihil red
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lets clear this up:
1. human knowledge is gained through induction and deduction.
2. induction allows you to make predictions about things you haven't experienced by using information about previous experience. more experience allows stronger inductive conclusions.
3. generalizations are linguistic expressions of inductive reasoning, using categories "all", "most", "many", "some", "few", "none" to describe inductive conclusions (to be completely accurate one would have to relate the exact percentages in addition to the size of the data set).
4. experimentation is a method of carrying out actions to increase data used for inductive conlcusions.
5. human reasoning embodied in the scientific method has destroyed the basis for religious misunderstanding of the world by creating the basis for scientific understanding of the world.
6. when faced with the insoluble contradiction between reason and religion, religious obscurantists attack reason itself.
7. the specific form in which kaak attacks generalizations is the binary metaphysical belief that either you can know everything or you can know nothing. humans cannot know the entire universe, but we do experience some of it and this partial knowledge allows us to understand the way it works well enough to manipulate it to accomplish our desires. we do not always have correct theories or succeed, but humans are able to succeed to a much higher degree than any animal without cognitive capacity, and humans with a scientific methodology are able to succeed to a much higher degree than humans without it. a theory that gives correct results more than random chance would give is a better theory than no theory.
8. kaak's denial of the use of generalizations is a denial of inductive reasoning and human cognitive and descriptive capacity. it is based on the impossibility of reconciling religious dogma with reason. kaak chooses to maintain his superstitious beliefs and deny science.
9. Science should be used to understand the historical origins of religious belief as having arisen in a time when we didn't understand the world very well, and used in class societies as a method of ideological control.
but it is unlikely that arguing with nationalist religious homophobic bigots like kaak will change their minds. instead shitheads like him should be swept into the dustbin of history by a socialist revolution.
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nihil: good lord man.
first off, go back and read my last post in the bigot thread. Secondly, i do not deny science. I'm actually a big fan.
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the specific form in which kaak attacks generalizations is the binary metaphysical belief that either you can know everything or you can know nothing. |
I'm not sure where you got that, but it is grossly inaccurate. I merely stated that you cannot say that gerenalizations are good and accurate in and of themselves. it is wholly dependant on that which they referance. The polar opposite is true is well; generalizations cannot be bad of themselves either. by the very substance of the word a generalization must generalize SOMETHING. that said, it is also true of generalizations that every generalization will be wrong some of the time.
finally, i would like to note that i have not proposed or defended any "superstitious beliefs" in this thread. You seem to be harboring some bitterness about something that was obviously misconstrued. If you would like to talk about it, you are more than welcome to PM me.
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Guynemer
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Originally posted by devilmunchkin
we had two debate threads go pretty far. i was involved in one.
also, if ou and guynemer had bothered to read, you'd realize this thread isn't even ABOUT xianity. not everyone on the board posts the same old complaining tripe. |
Lordy lordy lordy, I haven't even begun to read what the hell happened to this thread during the evening. But I just want to state for the record that it is patently obvious to everyone what the purpose of this thread was, whether he mentioned religion or not. EDIT: And, for the record, you'll notice *I* never mentioned Christianity either.
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Jon Miller
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is this acid trip still going on??
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18-03-2002 14:30
I doubt that you've ever set anyone straight. Certainly not me. I'm straight to start with.
lets think here.......naw reality dictates i would rather not...
"generally people with what they percieve to be high "ideals" are represented here...you proved that too...
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