18-03-2002 13:48									#121
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quote: It's a semantic arguement about the value of generalizations in certain circumstances. What exactly is there to debate?

Let's start with you why are you here? Let's generalize you have but nothing better to do. Let's generalize an arguement in this circumstance (semantics) about the debate of generalizations...now what is the value of you being here?

	18-03-2002 13:49									#122
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asher
there are no sides
this is a fooking free for all
any hopes of having a serious discussion were thrown out the window after the first page and only a minute few of us (ala 2) have been trying to hold it together

we might as well move on to:
blah
and Ming's a bastard! now.

	18-03-2002 13:49									#123
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Kaak: Those "deductions" are made via generalizations. They deduce that aspirin will work on all by generalizing from given samples of uniform chemicals to the conclusion that all chemicals of that given type in the future will be like that. They never know for sure, and this is shown by the fact that aspirin does not help with some people's headaches at all.

Applying generalizations does involve deduction,making them sometimes induction, sometimes a bit of induction and deduction.

	18-03-2002 13:51									#124
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So, basically what you are saying is that generalizations are wrong? or atleast Always wrong some of the time? hmmm...seems like i posted the same thing two pages ago.

Btw, i'm still waiting on my money for the water bet

	18-03-2002 13:52									#125
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak blackice, once again, i hve absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

Blackice is easy to understand. His crazy ravings boil down to: I right, you little man, you fool, you grow up. Oh, and let's not forget the constant crazy laughing of a maniac.

	18-03-2002 13:53									#126
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quote: Blackice: Just get out of the thread. You're recycling your insults and you've still said NOTHING actually relating to the topic to show you have ANY understanding of what's going on. All you're doing is running around saying "see thats what i mean" "see hes right" "see hes got a good point". You're seriously the dumbest poster on Apolyton. Bar none. I should think LR and DM find it insulting that you be on their side

Like control freak you mean ok god You contradict yourself more than not I think they have made it clear you have proven the "generalization" clause.

	18-03-2002 13:53									#127
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Ting: i gathered as much, but since he seemed to be directing all of that at asher, i didn't see why he kept saying my name?!

	18-03-2002 13:54									#128
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it's 3am
i'm going to bed
right fred?
that's what i said
haven't you read
man...i wish i was dead

	18-03-2002 13:54									#129
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quote: Blackice is easy to understand. His crazy ravings boil down to: I right, you little man, you fool, you grow up. Oh, and let's not forget the constant crazy laughing of a maniac.

ah Asher's dl I see you have contributed as much as usual to a thread

	18-03-2002 13:56									#130
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quote: Originally posted by Kaak Ting: i gathered as much, but since he seemed to be directing all of that at asher, i didn't see why he kept saying my name?!

Maybe he just hates names composed of a double-a and a double-k. Then again, maybe he likes typing these types of names and that's why he includes you in his posts.

	18-03-2002 13:56									#131
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My DLs are Giancarlo, Wiglaf, and Ming. Tinkai is Kaak's DL.

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quote: Ting: i gathered as much, but since he seemed to be directing all of that at asher, i didn't see why he kept saying my name?!

Oh my god triple tl Does anyone take the time to read....

	18-03-2002 13:57									#133
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quote: Originally posted by blackice quote: Blackice is easy to understand. His crazy ravings boil down to: I right, you little man, you fool, you grow up. Oh, and let's not forget the constant crazy laughing of a maniac. ah Asher's dl I see you have contributed as much as usual to a thread

I'm just in awe of your brilliant contributions to this thread.

	18-03-2002 13:58									#134
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quote: My DLs are Giancarlo, Wiglaf, and Ming. Tinkai is Kaak's DL

hahahahaha good one :d: .

	18-03-2002 13:59									#135
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quote: Originally posted by Asher My DLs are Giancarlo, Wiglaf, and Ming. Tinkai is Kaak's DL.

No. Kaak is my evil DL.

	18-03-2002 14:00									#136
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quote: Originally posted by blackice Oh my god triple tl Does anyone take the time to read....

nope, i stopped reading your posts after the first.

	18-03-2002 14:00									#137
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quote: I'm just in awe of your brilliant contributions to this thread

School was a bummer right? Lost in your own amazement?

	18-03-2002 14:01									#138
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quote: nope, i stopped reading your posts after the first

That explains the comment .

	18-03-2002 14:10									#139
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quote: So, basically what you are saying is that generalizations are wrong? or atleast Always wrong some of the time? hmmm...seems like i posted the same thing two pages ago.

I've never said "all generalizations are right" or even that a valid generalization is "always accurate". All I said is that certain generalizations are true and that true generalizations are rules which hold "most of the time".

I have shown that your aspirin deduction, is deduced from an established generalization. Sorry if my posting the same thing two pages agos bothers you, I'm just trying to be consistent.

	18-03-2002 14:15									#140
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I don't really agree with your view of the aspirin thing, and i think you won't either in a couple of years, but that is a bit tedious and tiresome to debate at this point. Go ask your logic prof, he'll explain it to you.

as for:

quote: All I said is that certain generalizations are true and that true generalizations are rules which hold "most of the time".

The signifigance of this statement proves my other post that generalizations are worthless in themselves. Glad you are starting to think clearly

	18-03-2002 14:16									#141
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arn't some people allergic to aspirin?

	18-03-2002 14:19									#142
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haha...it is definately past your bedtime

	18-03-2002 14:20									#143
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Yes Asher that's totally different from Kaak being on yours.

	18-03-2002 14:21									#145
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your's too? when 's your first class yo?
mine's at noon.
there are too man comments coming out of thin air.
damn i have a migraine.

	18-03-2002 14:23									#146
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i think i have a philos class at 11 tomorrow...and i'm at work, i don't have a choice LR:

	18-03-2002 14:26									#147
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there needs to be a kaw against the comp lab workers being there then. that tis just wroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong. they need to hire night monitors.

	18-03-2002 14:28									#148
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I used to work from 12:15am-8:15am or 1am-9am all summer, six days a week. In a hot, busy bakery.

Working at a computer lab is nothing at this hour.

	18-03-2002 14:28									#149
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i would agree with you, but there are a lot of stupid people that need help at 4 am...

	18-03-2002 14:29									#150
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asher: were you taking 16 hours of senior level classes at the time?