20-03-2002 06:57									#1
	Enemy units appearing in my cities via an EVENT! Enter the AD-FREE zone

When playing some scenarios I give Red Front as my immediete example I find that enemy units created in an event somehow end up in a city I still control.

Ie I own Riga a event occurs to create units at the co-ord of my city and they appear in my city with my units. I can disband them but not move them. I still have production and enemy units will no longer attack that city though the units inside will attack my units outside the city. This may been seen as good but ruins the game as I have to kill the city to be fair.

This only happens for Riga and sometime Kursk, looking though the events files many other of my cities are included but from what I can tell it(events) won't create units at a location that the enemy controls.

But with Riga/Kursk it apparently does?

Can some one clarify this or offer a explanation as to how this could occur. ie if I have no units left in the city will it allow it etc

I have reinstalled the events file from the original download but it still occurs.


I run win2000

Please help as I love RF V1.4 but this is happening more often now!

	20-03-2002 07:09									#2
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What are you running it with? MGE/FW/ToT?

	20-03-2002 07:13									#3
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Sorry should have mentioned FW.

	20-03-2002 07:14									#4
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Did you have units garrisoning the cities at the time the German units appeared?

	20-03-2002 07:15									#5
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I'm guessing this as I don't have the RF events in front of me, but I'd say that your problem is being caused by the units not having alternate 'spawn' points for when the city/square is occupied by enemy units. You an fix this by editing the rules to include an extra spawn point.

	20-03-2002 08:06									#6
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Darth I'm not sure if I have any units left when the enemy ones appear as I start with about 5 but in RF there is a lot of casualties for me at the start of the game so its impossible to tell at what exact moment when Riga was attacked or killed my units the others appears.

Are you saying that if you have no units left and a event occurs that if a city is left defenceless the units will appear? Actually this won't be it b/c my units are there as well during my turn!

Case - I am not aware of this where can I make these chages to try this ie extra spawn point?

	20-03-2002 09:03									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Case I'm guessing this as I don't have the RF events in front of me, but I'd say that your problem is being caused by the units not having alternate 'spawn' points for when the city/square is occupied by enemy units. You an fix this by editing the rules to include an extra spawn point.

If all locations specified in events for creation of a unit are enemy occupied than the event just doesn't happen. The only way an enemy unit can occupy a square (or city) that you also occupy is if it is added using "cheat mode." There must be something haywire with Colwyn's Civ2 program.

	20-03-2002 11:03									#8
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Ok I'll try reinstalling civ FW b/c you may have a point b/c it only recently started to happen. I'll let you know.

Would this event do it if I owned the city at 33,61 or like create units will it not do it until the computer took over the city?

@IF
RECEIVEDTECHNOLOGY
technology=60
receiver=Germans
@THEN
MOVEUNIT
unit=AnyUnit
owner=Germans
maprect
26,68,30,68,30,74,26,74
moveto
33,61
numbertomove=ALL
@ENDIF

	20-03-2002 18:39									#9
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That event there will move all units within a box (the mapprecets determine the box dimensions) to 33,61. If the city at 33,61 is owned by you, the units will stop on their way there and the command 'leaves' them. They will then be standing at (for instance) 31,61 and attack the city on their own.

As techumseh said, if an event is set to create a unit in a city not owned by that particualr civ, the event merely doesnt occur. I have never seen it go through with the event and place units in another civ's cities...

Hope that helps.

-FMK.

	20-03-2002 23:27									#10
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I can't say I've ever seen this happen with land units before, but I have encountered enemy computer units in my cities that have an air/sea domain. I think that the computer will create these units in the square regardless if it is occupied by another power.

What unit is being created in these cities? If it is a naval/aerial unit, I believe you have your answer; if not, check what position the unit occupies in the rules.txt - it could be on one of the original default slots for naval/aerial units.

But I'm generally puzzled by this. Anyone else have a theory?

	21-03-2002 00:36									#11
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With Harlan's LOTR scenario, I recall seeing naval dromonds created (via CreateUnit for the Haradrim) in a conquered Harad port containing a Gondor land unit. They were vulnerable to ground attack. It happened a while ago, but I think placing a human *naval* unit in the port may have prevented their creation there.

	25-03-2002 03:33									#12
	Reinstalling Civ2 & FW did the trick! Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Thanks for your help and advice with this matter!

Since reinstall no furhter instances occured re enemy units appearing in my cities!