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MrWhereItsAt is offline MrWhereItsAt
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New Year's Resolution: 2005 is the year of Where It's At - come get some.
Nov 2001
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Repeatedly held positions - Anticonstitutional? Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

I know we are heading towards our third term, meaning elections. But I read somewhere that we can't have ppl reprising their roles more than twice in a row. If this is so, we are gonna have major problems finding enough ppl willing to end up in the responsible positions, and even less who are able to DO the job.

I have put a post in the High Council thread for someone "in authority" to answer the question of whether this is anticonstitutional or not, so everyone else use this thread for discussion. Should it be OK to hold a High Council position multiple terms? Or should it be OK to stay in power multiple terms as long as you rotate position from Prez to Vice to Defence etc? Be realists here - at the rate the game is going, we are going to need many more contributors to continue cycling through Councillors without many repeats.

Personally, I think that perhaps we should give preference to any newcomer who can seriously do the job, but if such a person doesn't materialize we should be able to have, say, El Awrence continue in his position of Trade Advisor. Especially if they have done a good job, or they haven't actually needed to do anything! (Have you had much to do there, El Awrence?)

This member has spoken, I open the floor to the Honourable Members.

Liberty Hall, guys. Speak up!

shade is offline shade
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May 2001
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Inflate your Upload Space

let's see what I found about it:

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Originally posted by shade
*Fatigue:since their will be re-elections,it might be usefull to put a max to the nr of turns you may get ellected in a row.(eg max 4 times would mean: be minister of finance first and second turn ,then sience and then president.then you have to stay out one electionturn and then you can get back in)
(this is if there are enough volunteers for the job)


quote:

Originally posted by adamsj
5. Only four terms can be served by anyone in cabinet in a row, but after the fallow term can get back into the cabinet.


==> this is all I could find=> nothing about 2 terms or max 3
--> the first quote was a proposal I made in the very beginning about the gamerules
-->the second quote is the "constitution" adamsj put up(except for the point of the save only beeing held by the prez nothing of these rules changed)

I see the problem,and I do hope we can get enough fresh blood in here that by the time we get to the 5th ellection our "cast" is completely changed.I myself probably won't be in the 4 & 5 term.

I have spoken.

Shade,want's to be president .

Dr. Nick is offline Dr. Nick
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Oct 2000
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I don't think we even have a Constitution...

*requests for the army to repress these constitutionalists*



To be honest, I only even started doing something now...

MrWhereItsAt is offline MrWhereItsAt
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Tired of ads?

I KNEW IT!

You've been living off the public purse for FAR TOO LONG, El Awrence!

It's time to get to work!

And you will never stop us! Vive la Constitution! Vive!

When shade is in, you'll be aworking for your living.

Hydey is offline Hydey
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Mar 2000
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He won't be aworken ifen he gets the arse.

MrWhereItsAt is offline MrWhereItsAt
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Yes he will. As an executive toilet cleaner!

Then he can clean up AFTER the arse!

We wouldn't do that to you El Awrence, would we Hydey?

Hydey is offline Hydey
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Mar 2000
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Tired of ads?

Not if he votes for me.

shade is offline shade
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May 2001
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Originally posted by El Awrence
I don't think we even have a Constitution...

*requests for the army to repress these constitutionalists*



There have been some meager attempts...but I don't know if we actually decided something in the end...

*army is ready to suppres possible constitutionalist opposition,long live military law *

Shade

Marquis de Sodaq is offline Marquis de Sodaq
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Jul 2000
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Several ministers had next to nothing to do during the first month - we had made no contact with other civs, and all cities were still pumping out settlers to expand. Even with term limits, I'd say they just didn't count during february.

We have something of a constitution. It was never officially ratified, nor was it rejected. As a substitute, we can just do what I suggest.

Shaka Naldur is offline Shaka Naldur
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May 2000
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i think there are being major changes in the cabinet

the sciece minister, the military one and the president is going to change for sure

the trade didn´t have anything to do until now (btw, MrWhereItsAt, do you want to be the next trade advisor? )

the only charges that maybe will continue are the foreign minister and the city advisor,
is not a big deal in my opionion at this moment,

let´s wait this elections and the next ones they will be requested to let their places to newcomers

cavebear is offline cavebear
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Oct 1999
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Actually, I think it would be beneficial to have a gradual change in elected officials, with some new people and some experienced people each month. I don't mean just positions (that is already guaranteed), but a new person or two.

It will be helpful if we have more people who gain experience at this new game style.

Hydey is offline Hydey
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Mar 2000
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Just Vote for hydey as Foreign Minister.

MrWhereItsAt is offline MrWhereItsAt
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Now THAT is a catchy election slogan!

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quote:
Originally posted by Hydey
Just Vote for hydey as Foreign Minister.


=> And what are the goals you want to achieve,Hydey?

Shade

Matticus is offline Matticus
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Feb 2002
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term limits.. Got spare money?

We could have our elected officials on a rotation like the US Senate is. In the Senate each person has a 6 year term, but on third of them are up for reelection every two years. The idea was that there would be experienced lawmakers in the Senate at all times. We should come up with a system such as this for our cabinet. Each minister serves a one month term, but one fourth of them come up for election each week. Or something like that. We could have the election on the weekend so that everyone would be able to vote. What do you all think?

Hydey is offline Hydey
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=> And what are the goals you want to achieve,Hydey?

Shade


I would to build lovely embasies in the lands of our enemies/ friends this would enable us to use our diplomats/ spies to greater effect.

I would use my diplomacy skills to enourage other civs to share knowledge with us or at least not let them be infront of us.

I would use these embasies and diplomats to make our President the greatest ruler of all time.

Vote 1 Hydey

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