23-03-2002 09:46									#1
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Which is your fav wonder? Mine is the great library.
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	23-03-2002 10:49									#2
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This is a tough call as every game is different. The happiness wonders are always important therefore i vote for Sistine Chapel.

The monetary wonders can save a veritable fortune over the course of a game however. The bigger the map/military, the more important Adam Smiths and Leonardo's become.

	23-03-2002 11:15									#3
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I have to go with Universal Suuferage. I hate War Weariness and hate to give up the bonuses of republic or democracy.

	23-03-2002 11:53									#4
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Hoover dam!

Production is the basis of large empires!

	23-03-2002 12:09									#5
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Dude. Longevity. ...Or is that a small wonder? I've only built it once or twice, I can't remember off the top of my head.

Seriously, I'd say it's a tossup between Sistine, Pyramids, Sun Tzu, Adam Smith, or Hoover, depending on the map parameters and which victory you're playing for.

What? Why Adam Smith, you say?? Have you ever not built it, but had lots of banks and markets, then captured Smith's later? It can save you HUNDREDS of gold per turn in maitenance.

	23-03-2002 14:09									#6
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Hover Dam is best.
Maybe it's even broken considering how good wonder is.

Next,
Sistine Chapel, must have for Emperor+ games.

	23-03-2002 15:17									#7
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Other - Bach's Cathedral, even without the 'Ode to Joy' melody.

	23-03-2002 15:23									#8
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I'd go for hoover dam (depending on the map type of course), with sistine chapel a close 2nd.

	23-03-2002 16:47									#9
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Since I never play games with large continents, Hoover Dam is often quite Useless for me.
I mostly go for the Sistene Chappel as it gives a lot of culture
in addition to a unique happiness bonus.



-Saurus

	23-03-2002 18:13									#10
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I always thought that a wonder like the Hanging Gardens is a valuable wonder simply by virtue that is an ancient wonder that would generate lots of culture points in the long run.

	23-03-2002 19:44									#11
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What? No missile defense?!?!

That thing is a life saver!

	23-03-2002 20:00									#12
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I voted for Sistine Chapel. Hoover Dam would be a close second. I have to agree with some of the other posts above. The difficulty level diminishes/increases the importance of the Sistine.

What?! You placed the Oracle in a category by itself and Bach's Cathedral in the "Other" category???

Bach's is cool since it acts as a supplement to cathedrals instead of replacing them.

	23-03-2002 20:16									#13
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It depends on map size. The larger the map and the larger the continents the more important some of the wonders are.

I voted for the Sistine Chappel. Its very usefull at ALL map sizes. If I played all my games on huge maps though I might say something different. Hoover Dam is really usefull.

Lately though I have found that The Theory of Evolution is nearly as important because that is what gives me the Hoover Dam.

	23-03-2002 20:45									#14
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Pyramids only 2 votes??

My vote for Mr. Hoover and his power plant.

	24-03-2002 02:42									#15
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GL, because the tech-wh0ring AI.

just wished it lasted longer.

	24-03-2002 02:51									#16
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Hoover is the perfect match to a Continent full of Factories.

	24-03-2002 04:48									#17
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No wonder is indispensable. The only one I miss if I don't get it is Sistine's chapel.

	24-03-2002 07:31									#18
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I voted pyramids, just because it's usually the first wonder I build and I like not having to build graneries on that continent.

	24-03-2002 07:59									#19
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Definetly Darwin's Theory. Two FREE advances, how can you lose?

	24-03-2002 08:01									#20
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Sorry,
I forgot about The Great Library. An instant remedy for coming back in the tech race. I change my vote to this one because of temporary amnesia.

	24-03-2002 08:34									#21
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I voted Sun Tzu because I usually play pangea, where there is one massive continent. Thus, when I'm rolling through cities, I don't have to stop them more than a turn or two to heal my military completely, thus allowing me to move more quickly cross country. Also, if I am in the midst of a war and I get a new tech, I can upgrade at the front, even if the cities captured didn't have barracks originally,

	24-03-2002 10:21									#22
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Sistine Chapel for me, I got keep the little civers happy. Frankly, if I don't they like to break stuff. -=shrug=-

But my underlying philosphy is to build them all...

	24-03-2002 20:33									#23
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Sistine Chapel

For continent non-restriction and because happiness is the very most usefulness of all.

My 2nd best is Adam's Smith Trading Co because money matters.

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	24-03-2002 21:52									#24
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The Sistine Chapel with no doubt, Hoover Dam being second.

	25-03-2002 02:42									#25
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For me, GL is the most important, considering the tech-trading-hungry AI.

Hoover Dam comes in second, and Adam Smith's comes in third.

	25-03-2002 16:39									#26
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Oh I forgot, isn't finishing this game and winning, a Great Wonder(with Patch 1.17f)

	26-03-2002 00:43									#27
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quote: Originally posted by PatLasch I have to go with Universal Suuferage. I hate War Weariness and hate to give up the bonuses of republic or democracy.

I don't think Universal Sufferage does a darn thang. If I have it and go to war as a democracy my libraries and universities are getting torched 5-10 turns later...savage students.

Which begs the question, why can't we do something like nerve staple the citizens and force them back to work? In Civ3 it could be called "Mobilize Riot Police". Froce the people to work and lose 2 culture per turn.

Anyway, Adam Smith saves a ton of money so that's what I go for.

	26-03-2002 00:56									#28
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I'm a wonder hog, but if forced to choose the best one, it's gotta be the Sistine. Works anywhere in the world, never expires, and creates an effect that cannot be duplicated by building city improvements. I love the Great Library, but could live without it... not so sure about the Sistine.

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	26-03-2002 01:39									#29
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The Wonder Bra of course!

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quote: Originally posted by ACooper The Wonder Bra of course!

No no! Wonder Woman is for sure the best wonder. She does things that other wonders can't.

Spec.