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WFHermans is offline WFHermans
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Nov 2001
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911 Was a Mossad False Flag Operation
By Sean McBride
(McBride is a discussant in newsgroups
investigating CIA drug-trade
involvement.)
3-23-2

I've been strongly resisting coming to the best guess that 911 was a classic Mossad false flag operation, conducted with the full complicity of a Zionist political network loyal to Israel at the highest levels of the U.S. government, but some recent events have made it almost impossible to ignore the obvious.

This is the theory that best fits the known facts. It's not enough that the U.S. has failed to capture a single planner behind or perpetrator of the 911 WTC and anthrax attacks. It's not enough that the U.S. is even failing to show any interest in capturing these "evildoers." But now we have George W. Bush urging Americans to pay no attention to Osama bin Laden and to forget he exists. What's that again? Forget about OBL? And forget about the anthrax attacks?

OBL has conveniently been demoted from Lord Satan to a pesky "parasite," someone beneath our notice. You can't afford to capture "evildoers" when knowledge of the real identity and purposes of said evildoers would turn the popular understanding of 911 upside down and create the biggest crisis in American politics since the Civil War.

Then we have the frantic efforts to shift the focus of attention regarding 911 to Iraq, even though there is not a shred of solid evidence that Iraq was involved in the attacks, and that the campaign to attack Iraq is being masterminded and promoted by Israel and Israeli loyalists in the American government like Paul Wolfowitz and Richard Perle.

The question then arises: was the purpose of the 911 attacks to justify precisely this kind of military campaign, against the Palestinians, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and on down the line?

Then there are reports about John Ashcroft, a militant Christian Zionist, demanding that the investigation into the 911 Israeli art student and movers spy rings be buried. Both spy rings appear to be closely-connected to the 911 WTC attacks in sinister ways about which Ashcroft would prefer to keep Americans in the dark.

Here's the best guest so far of what happened on 9/11/2001...

Osama bin Laden is a high level agent operated by the Israeli Mossad in cooperation with the CIA. OBL and his inner circle recruited the hijackers for 911, with the naive recruitees having little idea of what they were really getting into or about whom was pulling their strings (this was the false flag component of the operation). The hijacked planes were taken over on 9/11 by remote control -- the hijackers lacked the piloting skills to execute the maneuvers that were performed. Well-established procedures for handling situations of this kind were deliberately overridden by orders from on high within the Bush administration. The planes were allowed to hit their targets.

Now the government is engaged in a massive propaganda campaign to suppress any reasonable questions about 911. If the cover-up starts to fall apart, it is likely that more and worse terrorist incidents will be engineered, martial law will be declared, and any skeptics and dissidents will be imprisoned or murdered.

Now, if none of this true, why is the government doing its level best to make it appear to be true by its bungling and provocative behavior? Doesn't this entire operation -- both 911 and post-911 -- have a keystone cops quality about it that is highly redolent of Iran-Contra?

Anyone who thinks Israel is incapable of this kind of behavior should thoroughly research the Lavon Affair. Start by doing a simple Google search on "lavon affair".

Anyone who thinks Christian Zionists aren't capable of supporting Israel in this kind of behavior should take a close look at the attitudes expressed on Free Republic, a hotbed of Christian Zionist opinionating. Christian Zionists regularly express the conviction that Americans owe absolute loyalty and submission to the Israeli government, and that Israel and the United States should launch a campaign of genocide against Arabs and Muslims. Literally thousands of messages in this vein have been posted on Free Republic in the last few years, with the approval of Jim Robinson.

The most difficult thing to wrap one's mind around in this scenario is the idea that some Americans would participate in such a radical betrayal of their country and fellow citizens. But then you have to take into account the bizarre effects of ethnic and religious cultism on the human mind, particularly cultism animated by apocalyptic fervor.

If this scenario comes close to describing what happened on 911, George W. Bush and many other high-level government officials are probably as much out of the loop as the average American. They are no doubt asking the same questions in private that have been asked on the Internet. I hope this scenario is proven wrong in the near future.

I hope we catch the real culprits behind 911 and the anthrax attacks, and discover they really are whom the media have claimed they are. But if the weeks drag on and on with more government evasions on these issues, and not a single significant arrest or conviction, suspicions are going to grow and harden.

At this point, the only thing I am certain about is that we have NOT been told the truth. That the Israeli's were notified about the attack on the internet two hours before it occurred, that only ONE Israeli died in the attack, that the Israeli spy ring was discovered and then sent back to Israel without getting any answers, that the CELEBRATION of the Israeli group on the roof top in NYC took place....all these things point to Israel.

The media is run by about 50 American and Non-American Jews. Sharon said that America is run by Israel. I believe it. Look at the Marc Rich (Expatriot Jewish American) pardon. We are going to war against Iraq and others to satisfy them, not for our own nation's security. It could lead to Nuclear war. That may be the idea. Over 2/3's of our population could be destroyed. Preparations to protect and sustain the "important people" underground are in place here, in Russia, in China and they WERE in place in Afganistan until we destroyed their caves.

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Yeah, go get them evil Jews. Damn the ZOG.

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Keep the X Files coming...

*Waits for Eli, Natan and Siro*

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Wow!

WFHermans , do you have more data about it ?

I really would like to hear more.
I've always suspected it. Thanks for the info, man!







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And does William of Occam has a beard in your universe?

Provost Harrison is offline Provost Harrison
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Feb 2000
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Stretching the limits of the imagination further than ever before. A little too far-fetched methinks.

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Jan 2001
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no no no , Chris! damn you , ppl, use the new smilies!!!
that would be much more suitable as well!!! :

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I never seen such an misinformed article in my life... do they have evidence for these phony claims or did they just pull them out of thin air? Everything is always a jewish consipracy for thse ignorant fools.

Most of all I hope this author of this highly incorrect article gets their jaw broken.

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There are new ones?

Never bothered to look!

Let's see...

These all seem to fit.

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or did they just pull them out of thin air?


Actually, I am inclined to believe that they pulled them out of their a$$.

Amazing, what people tend to believe... when it comes to conspiracy theories.

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Evidently paid by the word, crap or not.

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this is bullsh!t. everyone knows the NRA is behind this.

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quote:
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this is bullsh!t. everyone knows the NRA is behind this.


You fool! The Freemasons are!!

Or have they already gotten to you too.....




Go away WFHermans

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"You fool! The Freemasons are!!"


I thought it was the Egg Board?!

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You lost me at 'Mossad'.

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Sean McBride was lost LONG before he wrote this... and continues being lost...

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Too stupid to live.

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Nope, the WTC attack was plotted by the US government, not the Israelis. Presumably inspired by the earlier success of Bill Clinton in staging the US Embassy explosions in Africa to divert attention from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

This article (from my favorite raving creationist fruitcake, Kent Hovind) explains it all.

As Jack Chick explains:
quote:
There are only two ways in which world history can be explained:
1. The accidental theory. All events, such as those world depressions, revolutions, wars and political plots are the results of pure chance. Such a view is as ridiculous as belief in evolution!

2. The conspiratorial theory. World events such as mentioned above, take place because some influential people want them to happen and make them happen. People with power meet behind closed doors and work out plans to achieve their aims. The most precise way to describe such conduct is - conspiracy.

Yep, the notion that an evil conspiracy does not control the world is about as farfetched as evolution. Never thought I'd agree with Chick on anything.

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this is bullsh!t. everyone knows the NRA is behind this.


I thought the ATF was behind it.


Isn't this some of the propaganda that is actively being spread across Middle Eastern Muslim nations?

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Personally, I blame the UFO's.

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Isn't this some of the propaganda that is actively being spread across Middle Eastern Muslim nations?

Yes, according to a lot of fundie Muslims, the Jews did it to discredit Islam.

Muslim creationist Haroun Yahya says that the atheists did it. Only "secularism" makes people kill themselves and others. Something else to blame on "evilutionism".

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Hermans- How did the Mossad happen to pick five flights each with 2 resident Arbs on board? I think that such a coincidence would be improbable, there aren't that many Arabs in the US to make such a coincidence likely.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lonestar
You fool! The Freemasons are!!

Or have they already gotten to you too.....




Go away WFHermans


I knew it! It had to have been!

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Then again, WF Hermans (the writer) has books that tend to be a tad paranoid too. (a character during WWII is spending all the war helping the resistance, he THINKS, after the war it appears that he was helping the Germans and he's arrested.

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The whole theory is too far fetched but he did raised the point that a lot of the questions surrounding the whole 911 haven't been answered with any degree of satisfaction. Some of these include:

1. Why did the South Tower collapse before the North Tower?

2. Why did they "pancaked" down just like collapses caused by controlled demolitions?

3. Whatever happened to the busted Mossad spy rings?

4. Why did the other two WTC towers collapse?

5. What happened to the blackboxes of those planes?

6. Is there any solid evidence linking al-Qaeda and OBL with the attack?

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quote:
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The whole theory is too far fetched but he did raised the point that a lot of the questions surrounding the whole 911 haven't been answered with any degree of satisfaction. Some of these include:

1. Why did the South Tower collapse before the North Tower?

2. Why did they "pancaked" down just like collapses caused by controlled demolitions?

3. Whatever happened to the busted Mossad spy rings?

4. Why did the other two WTC towers collapse?

5. What happened to the blackboxes of those planes?

6. Is there any solid evidence linking al-Qaeda and OBL with the attack?


The first three can be answered in this article I read. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/a...RTICLE_ID=25385

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1. Why did the South Tower collapse before the North Tower?

Because of how the planes hit...the plane that hit the South tower was going faster, hit more floors (came in at an angle), and damaged more of each floor (didn't drive into the central support).

2. Why did they "pancaked" down just like collapses caused by controlled demolitions?

The construction of the buildings meant that when the floors were no longer secured to the outer frame the only place they could go was down...so you get pancaking. Not in the slightest bit unexpected.

3. Whatever happened to the busted Mossad spy rings?

?

4. Why did the other two WTC towers collapse?

What other towers?

5. What happened to the blackboxes of those planes?

Have they looked at all the rubble yet? Finding a couple of little boxes in amongst that much debris is a real needle and haystack problem.

6. Is there any solid evidence linking al-Qaeda and OBL with the attack?

What would be solid evidence?


...and let's not get onto the asbestos thing again...please?

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the black boxes are destroyed. They aren't indestructible you know

They can survive most plane crases. But not a building falling on it.

 
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