27-03-2002 19:51									#1
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Ready for a Challenge Tournament? If so post here. I'll post the rules later (provided there is interest on this).

PS. For those who may not know, the X-COM I'm talking about is a Civ2 scenario appearing in the FW expansion pack.

	27-03-2002 20:22									#2
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I didn't know there was an X-COM scenario. Where can I found it?
I've spent a lot of time playing UFO: "Enemy Unknown" (aka X-COM: UFO defense).

I could be interested, but I should take a view at the rules to be sure.

	27-03-2002 20:30									#3
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Preguntáme a mi, che Las reglas son simples. Se trata de jugar el escenario y llevar un log de todo lo acontecido en la partida. despues se comparan resultadso. En este escenario en particular se tendria en cuenta el score y el numero de bajas sufridas. That's it. Comentarios sobre estrategias seguidas y todo eso tampoco estaria mal

	27-03-2002 22:37									#4
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La Fayette started several challenge threads last year, all saw much good competition. X-Com was played in his "Conflicts in Civilization" thread. There was also "Delenda Sunt", a competition with the game's original Rome scenario; "Arriba! Spain wins WWII", playing as the minor civs in the original ww2 scenario; and others. It was much fun!

	27-03-2002 22:46									#5
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quote: Originally posted by Marquis de Sodaq X-Com was played in his "Conflicts in Civilization" thread.

X-Com in the CiC thread? That's probably why I must have missed

Anyway, a second challenge wouldn't do any harm, would it? Any other suggestion is welcome as well

	28-03-2002 00:35									#6
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is the scn worth playing?

I really liked the original game, but i never played the scn

	28-03-2002 12:38									#7
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Marquis de Sodaq was (almost) right: I decided last year that I would like to play all the 'official' scenarios and post my results, so that those willing to compete might do that easily.
You can find 4 threads in the archive (using the 'search' engine):
1) 'Delenda sunt' about the 'Rome' scenario (IIRC Dave V managed to win in 43 years with the Romans ... and got beaten later on ). I must check who it was.
2) 'Arriba' about winning ww2 with smaller civs. IIRC Fire Dragon now holds the record with the Spaniards, the Turks and the Neutrals. I hold the record with the French (since I seem to be the only one who managed to win ww2 with the French ).
3) 'Scenarios: Conflicts in Civilization'. Marquis de Sodaq holds the 'Mongol' record and arii holds 'Discover'. I hold several, but Xin Yu has recently started beating many of them (but he makes use of caravan rehoming, which leaves my pride somewhat untouched ).
4) 'Scenarios: Fantastic Worlds'. I have played a few, without much competition up to now.

Playing X-Com, I DESTROYED THE ALIENS IN MARCH 2013.

AFAIK, this is the record to beat.

	28-03-2002 13:55									#8
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I just checked:
DrFELL is the one who managed to beat Dave V's record.

40 TURNS WITH THE ROMANS

May his glorious name be remembered throughout the centuries

	28-03-2002 14:01									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Shaka Naldur is the scn worth playing? I really liked the original game, but i never played the scn

UFO was GREAT (in fact, it was THE game that made me fall in love with computer strategy gaming).

But IMO the X-Com scenario is also fun (and very different from many others, since there is almost no civ building,...but deadly fights all the way... remember the mutons?)

	28-03-2002 14:35									#10
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Most of the CiC scenarios aren't generally well designed and even have gross mistakes (the musketeer slot etc etc), so I would rather prefer not to play these (fun aside of course . The FW scenarios are more on the modpack side, so they are better balanced. They are much better designed as well.

LaFayette, did you keep a log of the X-COm game? If so, would you mind posting it here?

	28-03-2002 15:57									#11
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quote: Originally posted by La Fayette UFO was GREAT (in fact, it was THE game that made me fall in love with computer strategy gaming).

Was it? it IS great!!! I've dusted off my old copy and I'm nowadays saving the world (damn f#&$!ng Ethereals )

BTW have you ever heard of "Laser Squad" or "Rebel Star"? There's only a game I've played more than this saga, guess wich one?

	28-03-2002 16:05									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Waku Was it? it IS great!!! I've dusted off my old copy and I'm nowadays saving the world (damn f#&$!ng Ethereals )

Unfortunately, my old copy of UFO doesn't work under Win98.

	28-03-2002 16:15									#13
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quote: Originally posted by jasev Unfortunately, my old copy of UFO doesn't work under Win98.

you sure? mine does without big problems

	28-03-2002 16:38									#14
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It starts well, but after a while it crashes when starting or ending a mission.

	28-03-2002 16:44									#15
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mine works well, it has some "graphic" bugs when attaking alien bases but it never crashes in these missions. It only crashes when you minimize the chasing windows, but that's easy to avoid, do not minimize

	29-03-2002 00:56									#16
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Why don't you just post the scenario here, Jay?

As I recall, it had lots of units and little replay value, if you know where the enemy bases are, it's easy meat.

	29-03-2002 01:07									#17
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it's a (c) scn isn't it?

	29-03-2002 12:29									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Jay Bee LaFayette, did you keep a log of the X-COm game? If so, would you mind posting it here?

I kept no log, but I have 3 saves (Jan 2009, Jun 2010 and Jan 2013). Therefore the short log is:

Sierra 3 conquered before Jan 2009
Sierra 4 and 6 conquered before Jun 2010
Sierra 1, 2, 7 and Mother Load conquered before Jan 2013
Sierra 5 conquered in Mar 2013

I can zip and send you any of those saves if you wish (but I don't do it now, in order not to spoil the game for anyone ).