27-03-2002 22:04									#1
	MAP: Midkemia ver. 3.01 is out now!! Tired of ads?

This map is a map as depicted in the books of Raymond E. Fiest
This is a work in progress, and as of yet the only rule changed is the size of the map.
I am still working on this map, I still cant find the book, "Prince of blood" which is the only book of his that has maps of kesh, so kesh is just thrown in as what i can think of. The read-me that comes with the map has more on the map itself.

Enjoy, and please post replies of what you think, if you have read his books

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	27-03-2002 22:07									#2
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of this thread thankyou!

this map is 180 wide by 80 high so the screenshot is deceptive in its proporitoning, but it is extremely good, I think anyway. Also please give ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK YOU HAVE SOON!!! I will be releasing a scenario version of this map full of alterations in a week to two at the most and would really like feedback thankyou.

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	31-03-2002 11:42									#3
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Thanks to the help of fieryphoenix I have been able to locate a comlete map of the continent of triagia. This map is about twice the width of those found in most of his books so will mean the creation of a large too huge map. Im not sure. This will be the last stage of map making. After this map is compleated in two to four weeks I will start the fine tweaking of the scenario. The plan is to alter the civ names, hero names, city names, and unit names. That will come after the map itself is compleated. Thanks a million for the pointer fieryphoenix must apreciated. This is still a major work in progress so any input is welcome.

	02-04-2002 10:45									#4
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Is this the map you used?

I am a big fan of Feist, ever since Magician many years ago. I will download the map. I volunteer to playtest if you need any volunteers.

http://www.shoalcreek.com/feist/midkemia.htm

	02-04-2002 10:55									#5
	That is the map I am going to use Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

for the finale version, or at least for the finale map, still will have the scenario itself to work on next. The map I used for this is the map found in the cover of, "Rage of a Demon King". It is a good map but not complet. My idea for the next map, since it is so much longer vertically than the current map, is to widen the map out to include Novindus very far away from Triagia in the middle of a vast ocean. I plan on their being no more than ten start locations on the map, and ten civs I make, but besides the kindom, kesh, and the tsurrani, im not sure what other civs to add. I have city, leader, and unit names for these civs, but im not sure what else I can add in. Possibly startdock could become its own race of magicians led by Pug, just an idea. Could use ideas for the names. I don't plan on releasing the next map untill I have a lot of these littlte details done.

	04-04-2002 03:44									#6
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Well, how about the Eledhel, Moredhel and dwarves, for starters?

Roldem and Queg are not large world powers in Midkemia, but
then again, neither were the Zulu, Iroquois, or Aztecs in ours.

I don't know about the Tsurani... they came way late and never
had their own state. Too bad you can't script the Riftwar yet...
you could have called your scenario "Master of Tsuranuani".

I'd vote for a version with Novindus... you don't need to make
the ocean all THAT large, just enough to prevent travel until the
technology becomes available. That would allow you to pick a
couple of Novindan civs, the Jalpur nomads, Maharta or Ispar,
for instance. Although not so believable as even the Moredhel,
you could include the Pantathians there.

That makes 12, including Pantathians and Tsurani.

Don't forget to have fun while you do this!

	04-04-2002 10:23									#7
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I will use your suggestions for civs, and I have on last idea I would like feedback on, for now at least.

Since as the story goes Novindus is only reachable across the "endless sea". I am thinking about cutting off the map on the right hand side with a thin strip of mountains. It would be a little past Roldem, and would prevent travel to Novindus except across the endless sea.

This would fit the scenario more, but may make gameplay slightly more challenging for those that would aim to conquer all.
FEEDBACK PLEASE

	05-04-2002 21:42									#8
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I wouldn't bother with the mountains, they will only ruin the
map. Besides, I doubt the "Endless Sea" is anything larger
than the Atlantic or Pacific. Remember that Kingdom ships
pretty much deal only with two Mediterranean-size seas, so
the ocean would be an endless sea compared to them.
And, after all, Calis went there many
times, and from both west across the "Endless Sea", and
east after sailing down and around Kesh. Can't be THAT hard.
Just put plenty of deep ocean tiles in every direction around
it.

	06-04-2002 17:41									#9
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Next question, does anybody out there know how to change the civ names on the select your civ screen. So far I can click on where it says babylon, and instead of hammurabi it says, Borric King of the Isles. But I can't yet figure out how to get the civ choices to chage to say; The Isles. Great Kesh, Pantathians, Tsurrani, Hidati, Eledhel. and so forth.

Next question Should the, "Kindom of The Isles" Actually start out where Rillinon is (There capitol city in the book). This is a very small location and would only be enough room for one city, and if they should, should I give them mapmaking from the start so they can actually get off there island and create the great Kindom of the Isles.

Please reply!

	09-05-2002 00:43									#10
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Just curious as to how the project is progressing.

	09-05-2002 07:31									#11
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however I have been temp. stalled due to finals at school, or I would have already been done. The map is finished and all I have left is the bits and pieces to due. I have customized five of the twelve civs that will be in the scenario so far. The customizing includes city names, great hero names, the title of the king, name of the king and such forth. I am still trying to figure out what civ specific unit each civ should have. I am not including the lower end of kesh, just the full upper portion of midkimia as before, along with novindus. EACH CIV WILL NOT BE EQUAL. I am fideling with the slider bar for aggerssion to make civs like the tsurrani (mispelled) all out agressive with a terribly powerful civ specific unit, probably a cavalry with twelve attack. However I will be messing with all the units capabilities to make this fair, every civ will have its place. The quegans will have two civ specific units, one a powerful pirate the other ???. My final exams are over as of now and I am again at work. I am planning for the relase in a week too two at the most. However the GOM at the civfanatics forum is taking up a lot of my time right now. It's a Diety game and extremely difficult. Ounce that game is finished with I will be paying full attention to my little project. Novindus has to be realligned I messed its placing up bad, but this is what it looks like so far!

	09-05-2002 10:08									#12
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This is just the rough draft of the map so that you can see what it will be. I haven't yet added the good stuff to it just laid out the land to see how it looks. It is 180wide by 80high so it is actuall a lot different than it looks. Then main land is essintialy the same land and novindus is looking good but need's centered.

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	15-05-2002 01:59									#13
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well, its looking allright. far coast needs work, and so does southern kesh. too bad feist hasn't made any good maps of kesh.

	26-05-2002 11:51									#14
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This is a new version with a few alterations. The map has been tweaked and is more correct, Novindus is included, it is a 180wide by 80high map so the screenshot is quite decieving. Their is exatly twelve of every resource, except four uranium, and eight of every luxery. This is just the map the actual scenario should be out in a week or so I hope it doesn't take to long. It will be on a different thread since it is not going to be just a map, but an entire scenario based upon the world of midkemia. This is for those that like the map, but don't want to play a scenario. enjoy! AND PLEASE IF YOU THINK ANYTHING WHATSOEVER NEEDS CORRECTED OR ALTERED IN ANY WAY GIVE FEEDBACK SOON SO I CAN FIX IT BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THE SCENARIO!!! The scenario will be my final release of this map until the release of play the world and its full editor, I can't wait.

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	26-05-2002 11:53									#15
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enjoy fellow civians

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	26-05-2002 13:46									#16
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I just downloaded it. I will playtest it later today since it is way past the time I need to go to bed. The map looks good on your screenshot.

	04-06-2002 00:56									#17
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quote: Originally posted by SkateNate Next question Should the, "Kindom of The Isles" Actually start out where Rillinon is (There capitol city in the book). This is a very small location and would only be enough room for one city, and if they should, should I give them mapmaking from the start so they can actually get off there island and create the great Kindom of the Isles. Please reply!

The Western Kingdom came to Botswania from Rillinon. It is the only city named on the Isle in any of the books. All of the rest of the Eastern Kingdom actually resides east of the Western Kingdom (although surprisingly none of the cities listed are on any of the maps).

	20-07-2002 20:50									#18
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A small image.

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	20-07-2002 22:11									#19
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Thank you Gramphos and SkateNate.

	21-07-2002 00:43									#20
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quote: Originally posted by kring Thank you Gramphos and SkateNate.

What about me?

	21-07-2002 01:12									#21
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Sorry about that, lorddread and to anyone else that I may have missed.

Thank you lorddread. Also, thank you Raymond Feist.

	04-11-2002 15:09									#22
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Bump; how goes the project? I will help in any way that I can if you need it.

	09-11-2002 14:31									#23
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Well in all honesty I had given up the project untill their was actual interest and a better set of options to build with, ie PTW. I don't want to put out a cruddy mod. I had went through the process of putting together most of the civ's city names, leader names, etc. The catch was names for some civs UU's, leaders, GL, so forth so on, just don't exist to my knowledge. I tried to recruit help from several people that had sent responses that they are interested, went through a few series's of exchanges and then they bailed. I posses the abilty to put the mod together, I just don't posses all the knowledge, I feel I should, to put together the mod good. If you know a lot about the world and are interested e-mail me, or post more,

Thanks.

	11-11-2002 16:45									#24
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Can anyone here tell me if Talon of the Silver Hawk takes places before or after the Serpent Wars (ie. after Rage of a Demon King?)'I want to hold of reading all the in between books that have been writen since Rage until I start the series again (I mean Riftwar legacy books, like Betrayal at Krondor etc, which btw was based on a really cool rpg Feist worked on so I know the story already).

If it's based after The Serpent war then I can read it immediately, other wise I want to know when (timeline of Midkemia-wise) I should read the book.

	12-11-2002 01:31									#25
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I don't know; that book and the last series Riftwar Legends is currently unavailable in the USA; but here is a link:

quote: HOW: Would new readers to your books be able to read and understand Talon without having read your previous books? I think so. It's a personal perspective story, and a good "jumping in" place.

Raymond Feist Interview Link

I appreciate you letting me know that he had a new book out. It looks like Amazon.co UK will be getting my business since Talons isn't due out here until April; the other 2 Riftwar Legends books aren't even scheduled for USA release.

	14-11-2002 17:12									#26
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Damnit! I would appreciat it if Feist actually kept to some kind of timeline, or at least tell us were his new books fit it. It looks like he's throwing them in all over the place!

	14-11-2002 23:14									#27
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after all this time actually an interest in the subject, odd, but reassuring