18-02-2001 17:32									#2
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not sure what your question is, but for starts, here's something...

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	18-02-2001 19:10									#3
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well, I meant: Is this confirmed? is it going to be the actual release, or some kind of sneak peek, etc? What does firaxis say?

	18-02-2001 19:26									#4
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What this means is that we probably won't see Civ3 this year but somewhere in the spring/summer of 2002.

	19-02-2001 00:40									#5
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Or even in the fourth quarter 2001 (Oct-Dec 2001)
...unless it's the fiscal fourth quarter - then Jul-Aug 2001...but figure the odds on that

	19-02-2001 06:56									#6
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It probably won't happen, but a quality civ3 released this summer? I would die from the excitement.

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	19-02-2001 07:57									#7
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My absolute worst fear is that they'll shoot for a Christmas release and patch until summer...so unless the game is throughly pounded on and tested by Christmas time, PLEASE keep this thing in the over for a Summer 2002 release. Thank you.

	19-02-2001 08:45									#8
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I'm guessing for a christmas release too.

	19-02-2001 09:03									#9
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Well, if that's the case, I'll probably wait until the first patch or so and then buy it on discount around June or July. Unless, of course, the loyal Apolyton folks find nothing wrong after a month of real-world play.

	19-02-2001 10:01									#10
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damn capitalist companies and their f'in christmas releases. well, if this game gets push like CTP I and II were, i shall declare it the absolute death of the gaming industy as we knew it. i was/am hoping that firaxis will not release the game under christmas presure, but instead will release a sold quality game like its predicesors.

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	19-02-2001 13:17									#11
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I agree with Yin .. my worst fears are also the Christmas release .. because its a deadline based on Marketing .. and not quality of code.

All I ask is that Firaxis take their time .. and produce the best game they possibly can.. You have an awsome task when you consider that I bought CIV back in 1992 .. and played it for 5 years before getting a PC, and buying CIV2 .. and played that now for 4 years ..

Will I be playing CIV3 in 2005/6 ??? I hope so.



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	19-02-2001 16:02									#12
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The strange thing is that Firaxis says nothing, because this news item not only predicts something, but also makes references to the companies. Perhaps the update is so close that they'll say something then. In any case, the date to start playing Civ III for me is when I upgrade my computer, which may well extend into the next decade.

	19-02-2001 19:37									#13
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That the announcement is made by Infogrames, not Firaxis, worries me too. Sounds more like a marketing ambition than a developers best estimate of when the game will be ready. Still, Infogrames have a better rep than companies like Activision when it comes to not pushing for premature release. Hopefully they recognise that Civ (& Civ II) did not become all time best sellers by having two months of good sales figures before slumping into obscurity.

	19-02-2001 21:51									#14
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Well spoken Grumbold!

	20-02-2001 10:41									#15
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I don't know about you guys, but every Sid game I've owned has been top quality. Are you really that worried?

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	21-02-2001 02:14									#16
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ok, the matter has been settled. Unnecessary excitement again...

	21-02-2001 03:43									#17
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It means if they need a big selling game to make their Christmas 2001 sales numbers, then the game will be released. If they don't need to make their plan, then we'll get it when Firaxis deems it ready.

Of course that means if the game is released this year, it may be a bit buggy. Sorry guys, money talks.

	21-02-2001 04:16									#19
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ARRRRRGH! It'll be CTP2 all over again! And not every Sid game has been great out of the box (SMAC anyone?). Hope infogames is willing to wait past Christmas if necessary. Hey, if they need a game that bad, they should buy the rights to CTP2 and can probably fix all the bugs by Christmas and release it.

	21-02-2001 06:18									#20
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SMAC just had Sid's name on it. That was a Brian Reynolds creation. But the point is well taken. I want them to take their time.

	21-02-2001 12:41									#21
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Reynolds game, eh? I though it played like a watered down civ2 and, as someone around here put it, it had a map that looks like it is illuminated by the itty-bitty booklight. Just be sure to give Civ2 the proper play testing.

	21-02-2001 23:13									#22
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Well I just hope this doesn't cause some kind of battle between the two groups. Hopefully Infrogames hasn't become overzealous by trying to tell Firaxis what to do.

Nothing is worse than when the "new guy" comes in, thinks he knows more than everyone else, and starts stepping on toes, and breaking something that was running great in the first place. And makes everybody that poured their heart and soul and LIFE into something...

Let's hope that isn't the case here.

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	22-02-2001 00:43									#23
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Civ II also is a Brian Reynolds creation is it not, in fact, Sid says something like: "He did it all by himself, it was amazing."

	22-02-2001 07:21									#24
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1) CivIII will be released "pre-Christmas 2001"

2) It will be a marketing decision

3) It will be buggy

4) Everyone will buy it anyway

Bets anyone?