14-10-2000 05:47									#1
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does anybody know where i can get a civ 2
scenario (not ToT) named rise of (the great) kesh.

and the other thing
do the tribe you choose affect on the techs you
receive in the start of the game?
(when i play greeks i usually get bronze working,
with egyptians i usually get masonry, with mongols i usually get horseback riding and so on .....)

	14-10-2000 06:30									#2
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1. Sorry, no idea.

2. No, starting techs are dictated by your starting position on the map relative to the location of other Civs, the size of your land mass, and its terrain. If you have another Civ right next door, you'll get a heap of starting techs. If you start on a small-ish island, you should also get starting techs. If your terrain is crap, the same.

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	14-10-2000 10:21									#3
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1. try the database and archive section of Civ2 here at apolyton.

2. no idea

	14-10-2000 13:43									#4
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The tribe you choose does influence your starting techs. We are going to post on this topic in the near future.
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	14-10-2000 15:29									#6
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In fact - if I hadn't been finagling with my lady last night (rather than doing some serious drinkin' an' civin') we would already be Nobel Laureates - or at least SG2 would be - he's done all the work!!


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	14-10-2000 18:54									#7
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Enough with the teasing, SG1, get on with it! Spit out these earth-shattering discoveries!

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	15-10-2000 00:10									#8
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Hey finnie! - I've started writing it up. But I have to be careful - there are Pedants lurking everywhere in the outback!
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	15-10-2000 00:23									#9
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Andemagne... I've downloaded it too, but actually
a) I don't remember where I downloaded it from and
b) I'm sure I made a copy of it but i don't remember where i placed it ( CD ? Disk ? ). I need some more time to search for it. Stay tuned...

SG: 1,2,3... How many persons are in that single login? A more adequate nickname for you could be "The Legion"...
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	15-10-2000 00:47									#10
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pretty sure it was in apolyton archives or database.


if not check the civ2.com site. I know i've seen it somewhere

	15-10-2000 00:53									#11
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No, it wasn't in apolyton archives... i've checked it right now and find it nowhere here...

	15-10-2000 01:10									#12
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If true, it will be an interesting dynamic in the choosing of a civ. Granted, most of us restart games to eliminate starting techs, but it could be an intriguing aspect of a game where players want to keep a more historically accurate context.

A list of civs with the assumed appropriate tech would be enlightening.

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	15-10-2000 03:55									#13
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theres a scenario called the fall of the great kesh here

click link to d/l it

its in the archives in the greek part under scenarios a to z
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	15-10-2000 05:37									#14
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i downloaded the zip-file and tried to unzip it,
but my winzip said that "unable to open file" or
something. so i could not make the scenario work.
still seeking.....

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	15-10-2000 05:57									#15
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ok then, try this

	15-10-2000 08:22									#16
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SGs, bear in mind that you might end up nominated for the Kevin Keegan Award for Courage Under Fire.

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	15-10-2000 22:11									#17
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thanks coldwizzard, it worked.

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	16-10-2000 18:17									#18
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its been speculated that once the computer decides that you do in fact merit starting techs, the ones you start with are related to what the AI would research based on what the AI would be most likely to research. A while ago, it was looked into to a small degree in the thread: OCC: Americans can start with Monarchy.

Hopefully, when the SGs finish their in-depth study, it will involve modifying the rules.txt and documenting whether or not changing that file will in fact affect your starting techs

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