24-05-2002 11:48									#31
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Hey, count me in! I Warhammer! I've got Dwarves, Empire, Orc/Goblin, Wood Elf and Chaos armies. I can't mod, but I'llplay test them to death if you'll let me. Just a few thjoughts:

Dwarves - no horses, but a lot of tough infanty, a gyrocopter, lots of artillery, tunnel system usable only by them, the Skaven, and goblins (but not orcs)

Empire - steam tank, artillery as good as the dwarves, good cheap infantry and cavalry

Orc/Goblins - catapults, wolf cavalry, boar cavalry, poor to good infantry, catapults

Wood Elves - Treemen, supurb archers and cavalry, hawk riders and giant eagles, scouts and spearmen

Chaos - beastmen, really tough cavalry, i like the idea of them being the barbarians

	24-05-2002 16:09									#32
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AS I'm doing a fantasy mod and the unique Units list is looking rather hefty, Lemme know how you guys are going to get around this, If your going to get around it,.... I mean sure dwarves dont traditionally have horse units but dont they have alot of donkey/mules in thier place, are you going with 2 seperate units or 'counting' the mule as the basis for the dwarven mounted or discountiung the unit alltogether (which is easy enough, just add the unit obsolete for all mounted troops for the technology Dwarven Heriatage that dwarves start the game with)

	02-06-2002 21:26									#33
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I looked at GW's copyright page and it doesn't look like there's any problem making a Civ3 mod as long as we don't sell it, and make a title screen specifing the mod is based on Games Workshop's Tabletop Fantasy Battle Game. I've found some 3d models of a Rhino tank, Space Marine Air Speeder?, and some armor for Space Marines. There are also 3d models of Empire and Bretonnian Knights and I just bought a female elf model this weekend. I've just finished making my first Leader Flics and posted them at CivFanatics in the Graphic Modpack Forum (they are Amazon Flics but they were real simple to make...). So, let me know the status!

(I definitely want a Dark Elf civ, ahhhh, Witch Elves....)

Oh, for Warhammer I field Empire, Brettonians, Dark Elves, High Elves, Vampire Counts, Chaos Knights, Wood Elves, Chaos Dwarves, and Lizardmen.

	03-06-2002 01:07									#34
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quote: Originally posted by GhengisFarb Oh, for Warhammer I field Empire, Brettonians, Dark Elves, High Elves, Vampire Counts, Chaos Knights, Wood Elves, Chaos Dwarves, and Lizardmen.

What are you, made of money?

	03-06-2002 02:23									#35
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quote: Originally posted by Jer8m8 What are you, made of money?

LMAO No, I've been playing a long time and about 6 years ago a friend of my (who happened to previously own a game store) decided he wanted out of Fantasy to play 40K. He sold me his Wood Elf army for $35, and his Chaos Dwarves for $50, I picked up the Empire before 6th Edition when they were considered a 'useless' army for pennies on the dollar and now they're not so useless....

	11-06-2002 00:25									#36
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Hi, i love Warhammer and would love to help. I can't really mod but i'd love to play test and i've got loads of background for warhammer and 40K. I usually do Empire/mercenaries or Imperial guard, but I've got stuff for orcs, dwarves, marines and nids as well.

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	25-06-2002 22:31									#37
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ok...i used to play 40k, and have quite a bit of background knowledge and stuff. I would like to help on that side of things, im trying to learn how to make units, so maybe i can lend a hand.


ok, my thoughts on this mod.

1) is it a warhammer only mod? if not, i advise that it should be separate. to cut down on too much fiddling around

2) take tanks for example. the 40k units could simply replace current civ3 units, like unique units do.

so for example, you were playing as the eldar, when you researched motorised transport or whenever you get tanks, you would get a one of those big 2 person jetbikes, with perhaps +2 movement points, but less defense

3) warhammer units would be a lot easier to replace, and a lot dont even need replacing, take knights. i believe someone has done some good AoK knights, or other similar ones. pikeman would work for the empire, as would early gunpowder units. and some of the other civ's units would fit over current units, just using a different model

4) cities. the graphics could be changed fairly easily, with hive citys for humans, domed citys for the eldar (ok i know they are spaceships, but that doesnt matter)

5) cut the numbar of civs down to about 4 or 5 to start with. for 40k i recommend humans, eldar, orks and chaos
for warhammer i suggest empire, one of the elf races, orcs, and chaos

6) titans / daemons . this would look very cool at the end of the game

7) i say tyranids should be barbarians instead of a race by themselves. too complex

	25-06-2002 23:27									#38
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Ok, I think its time to get serious about this thing. Everybody who is interested in being a part of this mod speak up now.

Jesse Coombe
Lab Monkey
Bodiless Jack
Theodrik
Jer8m8
ChaotikVisions
Bane Star
Schizo_Angel
KieranC1
GhengisFarb

I want to put together a mailing list and get this thing organized. Clearly we have enough people that we can get started on this thing. I am just finishing up my Double your Pleasure Mod, so I have a good understanding of what this is going to take.

From reading the thread, it looks like this is going to be a War Hammer Fantasy Mod.

If it is I will volunteer to do the map. You can check out my other map work over on CFC. Follow the links in my signature.

	26-06-2002 01:25									#39
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sounds good, im still interested, though i never really played warhammer fantasy.

count me in, and if theres 40k work to be done, ill volunteer

	26-06-2002 02:36									#40
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dudes, count me in. I know everything there is to know about 40K and I also have lots of artwork that could used as the basis for flcs

	26-06-2002 06:57									#41
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but i thought he just said not 40K...?

	26-06-2002 23:11									#42
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I started this futhamucka and I aint quittin so I'm definitely still involved

	27-06-2002 02:31									#43
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ok get your ideas down, and mail em to the people who have signed up for this mod

	27-06-2002 05:26									#44
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Count me in! I volunteer to make Leader flcs! We need to iron out what the Civs are going to be and which (if we're doing both fantasy and 40k) 40k race the fantasy races turn into. I haven't tried making units yet but I can work on it,

High Elves - Eldar
Dark Elves - Dark Eldar
Dwarves - Squats
Empire - Space Marines
Bretonians- Praetorian???
Chaos - Chaos Marines
Lizardmen - ???
??? - Tyranids
??? - Tau
Vampire Counts - Necrons
Skaven - DEAD (never liked Skaven)
Orcs&Goblins - Orks & Gretchin

	27-06-2002 14:25									#45
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I'm In.. I'm in transit right now, but since I'll probably be contributing 3D Max Units then thats a bit down the track after you guys have a better idea of what troops exists first.

	27-06-2002 20:04									#46
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ok, in my opinion, this is the way i see the races

High Elves - Eldar
Dark Elves - Dark Eldar
Dwarves - (they get imperial guard units)
Empire - imperial guard
Bretonians- space marines
Chaos - Chaos Marines
Lizardmen - (get ork units)
barbarians - Tyranids
Vampire Counts - Necrons
Skaven - (get chaos units)
Orcs&Goblins - Orks & Gretchin

as for units, i reckon (tho im not sure) that we should go with my UU unit idea for 40k, but throw in some specialised techs for warhammer .

remeber lets try not to pile on too much work at once.

	28-06-2002 20:09									#47
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ok. jobs.

i call second in command
might be doing some modellin,g but is unlikely

jesse is in command, seeing as its his mod

zulu, you are artwork/background guy
gengis - leader flcs
anyone else that has contributions - send em in!
any modellers welcome, its all good

jobs :

*leaders
*units : a large orc dude, bretonnian knight, dwarf type person , empire steam tank, wood elf treemen/archer , vampire counts vampire (obviously!) , space marine, eldar guardian, imperial guardsmen, chaos marine, ork

that should be enough for the moment but if u wanna do more , fine by me. im not complaining

	28-06-2002 20:13									#48
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so we're working on a combined GW mod - going from Warhammer in the first era to Warhammer 40, 000 in the final era?

	28-06-2002 23:45									#49
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that will not work very well. Jesse and I have discussed this numerous times and have come to the conclusion that the best thing to do would be to make two separate mods. There is too great a gap in time and technology between the two games WH and WH40K.

Hence, we need to pick one game and devote our time and efforts to that genre.

I vote for Fantasy, it will be easier to do. Either way I will be putting together a map based on the maps above.

	29-06-2002 00:43									#50
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ok. woops.. looks like overextended myself a tad

ok. i vote for 40k, but either would b cool

	29-06-2002 03:31									#51
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I'd like to see a 40K mod, but Fantasy would be easier to do from a unit graphics perspective

	29-06-2002 03:34									#52
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From a terrain map perspective too.

I have thoughts on how to doa space map, but they do not correspond with the current system being utilized by the Star Wars mod people.

	29-06-2002 04:05									#53
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A 40K game would be cool but it should be played on an interstellar map. It could of course be played on a planetary map, but that would be more for scenarios than for an extended game.

My idea is to have the various land terrains represent various star types ala MOO. the coastal terrain should look like rocky planets and the sea terrain should look like gaseous planets. the ocean should look like deap space. The game should only be played with the map setting set to archepalgos or with pre-made maps. You would then settle on the star tiles which would represent your control of that star system.

A concern arises when dealing with resources. Everything cannot be limited to coastal and sea tiles, but the center tile is restricted to the 2 food output. And since you don't get resource bonuses for resources you build a city on there are some limitations that I need to figure out. But I think it would definitely look cooler.

	29-06-2002 04:11									#54
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How do I post an image? I found a 3D image of a Dwarf Warrior, which someone could work on for the unit.

	29-06-2002 05:16									#55
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It may have been mentioned, but the High Elf codex has a good map of the world

	29-06-2002 13:45									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Schizo_Angel ok. jobs. i call second in command might be doing some modellin,g but is unlikely jesse is in command, seeing as its his mod zulu, you are artwork/background guy gengis - leader flcs anyone else that has contributions - send em in! any modellers welcome, its all good jobs : *leaders *units : a large orc dude, bretonnian knight, dwarf type person , empire steam tank, wood elf treemen/archer , vampire counts vampire (obviously!) , space marine, eldar guardian, imperial guardsmen, chaos marine, ork that should be enough for the moment but if u wanna do more , fine by me. im not complaining

Fraid you can't just walk in and act like you own the place mate. We'll gladly accept you as part of teh team but its always been Kal-el and me leading this project.

We've decided to kick things off with the Fantasy mod and depending on its success we'll follow up with the 40K mod (with a bit of Battlefleet Gothic mixed into it too hopefully)

	29-06-2002 21:11									#57
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Jer8m8,

could it possible for you to scan a copy of that map and post it here? Give me something more to work with.

Thanks.

	29-06-2002 22:13									#58
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My friend owns it, but he and I will both be away till August. Sorry

	30-06-2002 00:37									#59
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Jesse Coombe, Kal-el - since you started this why not assign ppl to jobs: this thread is pages long and there's nothing to show for it.

	01-07-2002 19:14									#60
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phew... been i while. i forgot this was here.

while my expertise lies in 40k, i can certainly help out with the concepts for a fantasy game.

i think that the 40k thing, we'd have to something 'ala MOOjr from civ 2. and that would encompass all 3 or so 40k games (battlefleet gothic, Epic 40k, and the regular 40k.) perhaps we could split into 2 teams one contributing mainly to their areas of expertise, but offering helpful hints on each other's work.

i'm easier to reach by email which is "selfbiased@hotmail.com" drop me a line and put (40k) in the title.