Apolyton Archive  |  Preserved copy of the Apolyton Civilization Site and its forums as they stood in September 2005. Read-only; nothing here can be posted to or replied to.  |  Forum index |  About this archive |  The 1998–2001 UBB forums
Today on Apolyton WARDELL INTERVIEW PROMO A.C.S. HISTORY CHAPTER 4 GET CIV4 /w FREE PLUS! A.C.S. PHOTO GALLERY GET A.O.M. V1.1
Apolyton Civilization Forums
main| civ2| civ3| civ4| smac| ctp2| ron| moo3| galciv| galciv2| alt| about|
ApolytonPLUS | register | search | faq | new posts | pm (-/-) | upload | members
hall of fame new! | civgroups | civgroups news | interviews | the column | radio | chat | directory | news | store | PLUS
Apolyton Civilization Forums : Powered by vBulletin version 2.0.3 Apolyton Civilization Forums > Miscellaneous > Archive > Civ3-General-Archive > One Country Two Systems
Show a Printable Version | Email This Page to Someone! | Receive updates to this thread | Report this to Apolyton news!

bottom of page
  
Author
Thread    < Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
spicytimothy is offline spicytimothy
Chieftain
Los Angeles
Nov 2001
time: 21:18
Lightbulb  Old Post 04-04-2002 12:58
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#1 Report this post to a moderator
One Country Two Systems Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Just got an idea:

as a part of communism, or maybe as a totally new government type, maybe we can have a One Country Two Systems style.

For those who don't really know, it's the System People's Republic of China is using. Mainland China stays with Communism, and Hong Kong and Macau becomes Special Administrative Regions with democracy.

This seems like a good idea to reap the benifit of communism and at the same time decrease the corruptions of certain cities a bit... In this gov't style, maybe we can choose the type of gov't everytime we build a new city. Or maybe the computer automatically decide judging the distance a new city's located from the capital.

Any comments??

spicytimothy

P.S. I'm really just trying to be original here... pls don't target me... I aim for discussion, not argument.

Tormund is offline Tormund
Settler

Apr 2002
time: 15:18
  Old Post 04-04-2002 13:29
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#2 Report this post to a moderator
Increase the size of your Attachments

If you were to adopt the Chinese model I believe you would have to do it in the following way...

You would only allow a multi-government system when a city is acquired through trade. The civ receiving the city would then have the option of choosing to leave the form of government in the city as is OR change the form of government to that of the majority. The reason for choosing the multi-government system would be to avoid anarchy (which should occur in the city when it changes government). Of course there should be an administrative penalty for maintaining a multi-government system.

That said I don't think this model should be adopted. I think for the benefit gained, the time spent on making it a reality could be better spent elsewhere. A creative suggestion though.

Last edited by Tormund on 04-04-2002 at 14:14

spicytimothy is offline spicytimothy
Chieftain
Los Angeles
Nov 2001
time: 21:18
  Old Post 04-04-2002 13:32
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#3 Report this post to a moderator
3 Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

so three ways:

1. choose the type of gov't everytime we build a new city
2. the computer automatically decide judging the distance a new city's located from the capital
3. only allow a multi-government system when a civilization is acquired through trade

Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
Emperor
flying too low to the ground
May 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 04-04-2002 21:00 Visit Inverse Icarus's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#4 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

the chinese aren't a real communist regime anyway. they're all "we want to trade freely but opress our people anyway".

panzies.

TinCow is offline TinCow
Chieftain

Dec 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 04-04-2002 21:18
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#5 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

The Chinese are socialist capitalists (if you can call them anything).

spicytimothy is offline spicytimothy
Chieftain
Los Angeles
Nov 2001
time: 21:18
  Old Post 05-04-2002 08:49
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#6 Report this post to a moderator
no... Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

I'm not trying to discuss the state of Chinese government, I talking about the One Country Two System idea.

Personally I think it's a wonderful idea and it will work even better than democracy in the game.

Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
Emperor
flying too low to the ground
May 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 05-04-2002 12:49 Visit Inverse Icarus's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#7 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

well frankly, i think your idea sucks .

it makes no sense, if you think about reality... imagine NYC being democratic and Albany being under a communist regime...

it wouldnt work.

anyway, the closest thing to that that is acceptable is Social Engineering (ala SMAC) where you can create your own government (free trade, not people )

Thrawn05 is offline Thrawn05
King
All Your Posts Are Belong To Ming
Dec 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 05-04-2002 18:08 Visit Thrawn05's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#8 Report this post to a moderator
Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

The Chinese are a democratic communists.

They do have elections (democratic), but have only one man running for each office (communists).


I'm not really sure why they did somthing as stupid as that, but it keeps the people "happy" since they think they are really electing people.

Nym is offline Nym
Prince
France
Mar 2002
time: 06:18
  Old Post 05-04-2002 18:37
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#9 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

quote:
Originally posted by UberKruX
[...] the closest thing to that that is acceptable is Social Engineering (ala SMAC) where you can create your own government (free trade, not people )


I think it's a good idea

I would also be interested in the ability of creating my own civ, like in CivNet.

Inverse Icarus is offline Inverse Icarus
Emperor
flying too low to the ground
May 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 05-04-2002 23:32 Visit Inverse Icarus's homepage!
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#10 Report this post to a moderator
Support Apolyton

i am quite sure friaxis wouldnt be stupid enough not to recreate civnet for civ3, because i have friends who would be quite pissed off if Cleopatra's or Joan's visage was dealign with me

godinex is offline godinex
Prince
because I'm the son of the King of Kings.
Jan 2002
time: 23:18
  Old Post 06-04-2002 00:07
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#11 Report this post to a moderator
Got spare money?

You will need a Federation type goberment.

Arrian is offline Arrian
Emperor
Kneel before Grog!
Jul 2001
time: 00:18
  Old Post 06-04-2002 02:48
Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote
#12 Report this post to a moderator
Full PM-box? Change here!

The idea of having a few core cities be non-corrupt and the rest of the empire suffer from heavy corruption is basically Civ III Monarchy. The only difference is the democratic trade bonus.

-Arrian

  < Last Thread     Next Thread > Post New Thread     Post A Reply
All times are GMT. The time now is 05:18.
Apolyton Time is 00:18.
    top of page
Rate This Thread:
archivepost
Forum Jump:
Forum Rules:
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is ON
vB code is ON
Smilies are ON
[IMG] code is ON
 




Contact Us - Apolyton Civilization Site - Support Us!

Building a better Apolyton through better information. Click here and take our poll!
Non-US visitors, click here!

Powered by: vBulletin Version 2.0.3
Copyright ©2000, 2001, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.

Page generated in 0.0481 seconds (89.80% PHP - 10.20% MySQL) with 31 queries
Page Loading Time:

Support Apolyton: Amazon USA | Amazon UK | Amazon DE | Amazon FR |
Support Apolyton and get FREE PLUS, Buy from Chips&Bits: Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition | Call to Power 2 | Civilization: The Boardgame | GURPS/ Alpha Centauri | Alpha Centauri | Civilization IV | Civilization III: Complete |


Front Page | Civilization IV | Civilization III | Civilization II | Call to Power II | Alpha Centauri | Master of Orion III
Rise of Nations | Galactic Civilizations | Galactic Civilizations II | Misc
Alt.Civs | Civ I | C:CtP I | About | News | Directory | Apolyton Store | Forums | Chat | Columns | Interviews | Newsletter
Scenario League | CSC | Clash of Civs | Spanish Site | CtP Maps | Cradle of Civ | WesW's Ctp1/2 Site | Civ3 Haven

apolyton.net | apolyton.com | civilization2.net | civilization3.net | civilization4.net | civilizationiv.info | calltopower.net | galciv.net | galciv2.net | moo3.net