05-04-2002 21:46									#1
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http://www.paradoxplaza.com/hearts.asp

Paradox is making a WW2 game, similar to EU. All nations between 1936-46 playable. I can't wait for this.

	05-04-2002 22:33									#2
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Sweet!

	06-04-2002 01:58									#3
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I'm buyin'.

Buh-bye Firaxis.

Hello, Paradox!

I've been branded like a cow.

	06-04-2002 04:59									#4
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Where is the salivate smilie?

	06-04-2002 10:43									#5
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Now if the other game they're planning is set in the Dark/Middle Ages, everything will be complete.

	06-04-2002 15:06									#6
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If an add-on to convert game data from the end of one game to the beginning scenario of the other, then it would be complete.

	06-04-2002 22:12									#7
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Unconfirmed, but I saw a link on the official HoI forum that the next game will be called Crusader Kings.

http://www.wargamer.com/news/default.asp

quote: There's nothing official yet, but rumor has it that Strategy First and Paradox will be announcing their next two titles, Hearts of Iron and Crusader Kings by the end of this week and early next week. We hope to have screenshots for those soon. Crusader Kings reportedly takes Europa Universalis to another level, using the same engine, but expanding the game into the feudal kingdoms of medieval Europe in the time period of 1066-1419 A.D. The game map begins in Europe, stretching to the Urals in the East and including parts of Persia, the Arabian Peninsula, as well as the Coast of North Africa.

uglyduck, have any comments/insights?

	07-04-2002 00:04									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Kyle Unconfirmed, but I saw a link on the official HoI forum that the next game will be called Crusader Kings. http://www.wargamer.com/news/default.asp uglyduck, have any comments/insights?

I am afraid that I have to say. "no comment" to that one - sorry.

	07-04-2002 01:33									#9
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quote: Originally posted by uglyduck I am afraid that I have to say. "no comment" to that one - sorry.

I figured as much. But I assume they've told you what their other game is going to be?

	07-04-2002 02:46									#10
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They play things close to their chest - but a large hint has been dropped

	07-04-2002 15:21									#11
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What is so special about 1066?

	07-04-2002 23:11									#12
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I agree. It should be 1096, which would actually have some referance to the Crusades. Of course with the EU engine the Crusades will be a mess (try getting the HRE to march a 50K army overland to the Holy Land).

	08-04-2002 00:24									#13
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1066 is fine, as long as England owns Normandy and not the other way around. Although for historical accuracy it probably should. Seeing the capital of England as Rouen would be funny.

	08-04-2002 00:47									#14
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Both games look promising.

Both are based on the EU2 Engine which is kinda cool. Though for HoI only 20% of the engine still remains, it'll be totally revamped.

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Blimey. Another one.

quote: BETA : June 1, 2002

Already.

How on earth is Paradox churning these out so fast? Recycling what they've already got I suppose? Still, if it isn't broke don't fix it ...


Hope its not too ambitious though. In the WW2 genre there's a bit more competition than they've had in the previous 2 ...

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quote: Originally posted by ravagon Blimey. Another one. Already. How on earth is Paradox churning these out so fast? Recycling what they've already got I suppose? Still, if it isn't broke don't fix it ... Hope its not too ambitious though. In the WW2 genre there's a bit more competition than they've had in the previous 2 ...

They've been working on HoI since August, or sometime thereabout.

	09-04-2002 11:58									#17
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Wow. I think I'll definitely have to give both these games a try...

	09-04-2002 21:07									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Shadowstrike I agree. It should be 1096, which would actually have some referance to the Crusades. Of course with the EU engine the Crusades will be a mess (try getting the HRE to march a 50K army overland to the Holy Land).

Only 20% of the engine has been used. The rest has been extensively rewritten

	09-04-2002 21:20									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin If an add-on to convert game data from the end of one game to the beginning scenario of the other, then it would be complete.

quote: The goal of the game is to amass as much Prestige and Piety as possible for your dynasty. Saved games from Crusader Kings can be converted into the format of EU 2, so that a player can extend his game into the later centuries by exporting the file to his EU2 game.

http://www.paradoxplaza.com/crusader.asp

	09-04-2002 21:34									#20
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Wow. This sounds pretty damn good, too.

	09-04-2002 22:24									#21
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Wow, that was just a whimsical idea. If they can get it to work then that'd be brill.

	11-04-2002 02:12									#22
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus_Rex Both games look promising. Both are based on the EU2 Engine which is kinda cool. Though for HoI only 20% of the engine still remains, it'll be totally revamped.

It'll start after Hastings too. Dunno about Stamford Bridge though..

	11-04-2002 18:52									#23
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Hmm, this seems funny. I could have sworn when asked the EU forum polled more votes for an Ancient era game than a Crusade, Renaissance, Napoleonic or later period. Strange that they seem to be announcing games in reverse order. So much for players wishes influencing developers

Fortunately there seem to be other companies reviving the Roman strategy game market at the moment but I was hoping Paradox would do something a little more diverse that would allow anyone to try and rise to glory, not just the one nation. I have a great fondness for Mithradates VI of Pontus (131-63 BC) and would delight in leading him to glory (on the EU2 map Pontus existed approximately where Trebizond lies.)

	11-04-2002 20:43									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Grumbold Hmm, this seems funny. I could have sworn when asked the EU forum polled more votes for an Ancient era game than a Crusade, Renaissance, Napoleonic or later period. Strange that they seem to be announcing games in reverse order. So much for players wishes influencing developers

I think that's one of the reasons they hooked up with the developers of Legion.

	11-04-2002 22:23									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Carolus_Rex It'll start after Hastings too. Dunno about Stamford Bridge though..

Battles of?

The battle of Stamford Bridge was before the Battle of Hastings. So if it is after the battle at Battle (near Hastings) it is also after the battle of Stamford Bridge.

	12-04-2002 00:43									#26
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Figures then, I'm not very into those Anglo battles.

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HOI looks like a wishlist of a game for me I hope they can pull it off well