06-04-2002 05:22									#1
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I declared war on Egypt, but did not strike a blow.

Cleo's Knight captured one of my workers, inside of my territory.

If I attack now, am I subject to warweariness?

R

	06-04-2002 05:26									#2
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you will always be subject to war weariness if you're at war with someone. it sometimes takes a little while to set in, and if you're the agressor (you said you declared war) it's worse than if someone declared war on you.

	06-04-2002 06:16									#3
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I'm not sure that's right.

I do think it has to do with who strikes first. Also, if you do it right, you get a happiness BOOST for a couple of turns.

I did this in my Roman game... intruded into Egyptian territory, refused to exit, and declared war.

I did NOT initiate combat. Cleo took a worker and attacked one of my cities.

Next turn, I razed 2 cities, and generally committed mayhem.

Next turn, 3 cities went WLTKD, and most of my cities are all smiley faces.

R

	06-04-2002 09:05									#4
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quote: Originally posted by rpodos I'm not sure that's right. I do think it has to do with who strikes first. Also, if you do it right, you get a happiness BOOST for a couple of turns. I did this in my Roman game... intruded into Egyptian territory, refused to exit, and declared war. I did NOT initiate combat. Cleo took a worker and attacked one of my cities. Next turn, I razed 2 cities, and generally committed mayhem. Next turn, 3 cities went WLTKD, and most of my cities are all smiley faces. R

This may seem like a dumb question, but si your government republic or democracy?

	06-04-2002 09:34									#5
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communism has no war weariness, and i think monarchy / despotism is realitively low

	06-04-2002 12:20									#6
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I see the same thing, rpodos. I seem to get a few turns of WKT*Ds pretty much all around when someone declares war, and then another round when I slay the first invader in my land. Weariness doesn't seem to kick in for quite a while after that, even if I am stomping all over someone else's turf. Unless, however, the stompee happens to have been dragged into it through a MPP. Purely anecdotal, but I think most of my war weariness has come from wars against a secondary opponent...

Tuberski, I generally switch to Republic and leave it. Does it make a difference in a Republic who is the aggressor? Moreso than in Democracy, I mean?

rpodos, I don't know the answer to your question. I generally kill an invader, and then I am fine. A few games back the Zulus sneak attacked my worker, and I got a round of WLT*Ds, then by the time I was getting guys moved into position a few turns later, noticed that weariness had already set in. Maybe taking too long to exact vengeance gets you in trouble with the people...

	06-04-2002 23:58									#7
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Tuberski, I ma in Monarchy... I know that therefore WW will not be a big issue in this particular game, but I am interested in its mechanics.

PN, interesting point about citizens' expectations. I think I did read somewhere that a factor in WW is how long invaders are in your territory.

Anybody out there have a complete understanding of how this works??

R

	08-04-2002 01:26									#8
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quote: Originally posted by rpodos Anybody out there have a complete understanding of how this works??

I posted a couple of threads on this forum trying to gather info on this quite recently; you should be able to find them easily. There weren't that many replies though.