09-04-2002 03:08									#1
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I've made a small program (250k) called dateConstructor that I hope will help in making turnlength files.

Attachment: dateconstructor.zip
This has been downloaded 89 time(s).

Last edited by DDowell on 10-04-2002 at 16:37

	09-04-2002 13:53									#2
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I just downloaded the file still needs a bit of work like a just had a five minuet look at it when you save the file could you set it up so it automatic sets it up to save as the turn lenth.txt file

What you do it in any way I have some vb knowledge if you want I can help you make it better

	09-04-2002 14:42									#3
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc when you save the file could you set it up so it automatic sets it up to save as the turn lenth.txt file

Sure no problem, turnlengt.txt it will be!

quote: What you do it in any way I have some vb knowledge if you want I can help you make it better

The program is written in Borland Delphi 3.
If you know that too, I will gladly send you the source.
Did you experience any graphical problems?

	09-04-2002 15:15									#4
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No graphical problems but I was under the impression it would generate the dates automatic like a start date

Eg

29.03.84

you would put in an end date eg

29.03.1993

and it would generate the days /months .years between or what ever you wanted

	09-04-2002 15:43									#5
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It does. Kind of...

DDowell, I can't use the delete key to remove things in the 'Month' list, it only works for the 'Days' list.

Once I figured out how to use it, its quite easy, though the not emptying the cache is annoying if you want to make more than one separate list, with the same or similar dates, and month names.

Can I make a request for a line number column as well, because one of the most annoying things in making a turnlength.txt is the line numbers.

Otherwise, its great, and I'm sure will save a lot of time for many scenario designers (myself included )

Thanks.

	09-04-2002 16:45									#6
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Any chance of a user guide then. The only way this is going to help me is if some one tells me how it works but it could save a lot of people a lot of time.

	09-04-2002 19:34									#7
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Great tool, DDowell, a lot of people are going to be very happy with this

However, don't bother contacting Omnigod, he quit the job about a year ago. I have unofficially been appointed as his successor but due to technical (and 'political') difficulties, it's not possible to add new files to the database at this point. Keep an eye on the news/forums, hopefully the database will become active again within the next 2 or 3 months. Until then, you'll have to rely on the forums or on 'external' webspace.

If you can't find webspace of your own, I created a website which all CtP modmakers can use. If you want to add files yourself, ftp to ftp.250free.com (username: ctpmodmakers, password: [password removed by the archive]) but you can also mail files to me and I'll gladly post them for you.

Big Mc,
It's really not very hard to use, once you get the hang of it. Read the readme carefully and you'll get it.

You can add days with the Edit->Days->Add option (you're prompted for a name/number), add months with the Edit->Months->Add option (you're prompted for a name) and set the starting and ending year with the years section. Then save those settings in a text file and open it in a text editor to view the results.

	10-04-2002 13:48									#8
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I Have a real problem getting to grips with new programs.

As well as Redding must get some new glasses

	10-04-2002 16:28									#9
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The attachment above is now v1.1 (uploaded 10-04-2002).

Thanks to you guys for giving me feedback on v1.0.

Hopefully most issues have been sorted out in this version.

Finally: Big Mc, good luck on this version. Get glasses quickly.

Last edited by DDowell on 10-04-2002 at 16:37

	10-04-2002 17:04									#10
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I must need some it was like your post just changed on my

	10-04-2002 17:55									#11
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc I must need some it was like your post just changed on my

	11-04-2002 14:08									#12
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Loojk at the new version last and saw two problems already.

One you spelled turn length wrong (probably my fault)

And two you have a start year and an end year cant you just have a start year and a number of turns in stead of the end year

Last night I got 700 turns when I only want 537 easy to correct but a bit of a pain.

	11-04-2002 17:51									#13
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quote: Originally posted by The Big Mc One you spelled turn length wrong

Yes, your fault! Must have been... I never mispel anuthing
Will fix that first thing.

quote: And two...cant you just have a start year and a number of turns in stead of the end year

Who wan'ts 537(!) turns anyway.
I'm sorry but I don't think I'll add a turn limit to the program other than
the end year.

Thank you Big Mc for your interest. Glad to see this version didn't need glasses.

	11-04-2002 18:05									#14
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I don’t think you get me

Not a set turn limit of 535

But one that the user puts in so it matches his scenario perfectly

	18-04-2002 03:02									#15
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All I have to say about this mod is,"Thank God for DDowell!" With this, I might consider resuming my WWII project.

	18-04-2002 05:32									#16
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quote: Originally posted by EmperorMatthewI All I have to say about this mod is,"Thank God for DDowell!" With this, I might consider resuming my WWII project.

That would be great

	14-05-2002 23:32									#17
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Great little program, just what i was looking for
I had a short panic with the turnlengHt.txt but fixed it manually so, thats not so bad.

This thread should be topped.

	15-05-2002 01:04									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Maquiladora This thread should be topped.

Actual we only need a thread that links to these helpfull programs, too and not only to the mods and scenario threads.

-Martin

	15-05-2002 02:04									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Martin Gühmann Actual we only need a thread that links to these helpfull programs, too and not only to the mods and scenario threads. -Martin

Heh, my day only has 24hrs...
Volunteering?

	17-08-2002 22:21									#20
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Any new version out, DDowell? And of course this little program needs a place in the Modification -> Utilies section definatly.

-Martin

	04-09-2002 22:50									#21
	I wasn't planning to... Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

do another version of the turnlength program but if there is a common interest in a new one I will. I will however require some feedback about what changes should be made.
Please feel free to post your thoughts.
I am also open to ideas on other useful utilities.

	05-09-2002 02:38									#22
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One big useful utility would be a sprite creator. Now a days we can only make sprites (CTP2 graphics with movement) filling a not very friendly txt file. I think it would be nice if we had a program to fill this much easily dealing with/showing graphics anf not graphic file names. Specially for unit sprites txt.
Of course you would have to learn how this work and as i said it isnt very friendly.

	05-09-2002 03:08									#23
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Good idea, Pedrunn
Even more useful would be a sprite-unpacker - but that's infinitely more difficult to make...

	05-09-2002 03:31									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus Good idea, Pedrunn Even more useful would be a sprite-unpacker - but that's infinitely more difficult to make...

Actual it is easier to make the sprite unpacker. For instance you have only to understand how the graphics are stored in that file, you don't have to understand how the non graphics data describes what is an animation picture, a death picture and so on. For that task you actual need just to make a file viewer that interpretes every byte as in that picture as 16bit *.tga pixel. Then make a test sprite and you see what is graphics and what is data.

-Martin

	05-09-2002 03:51									#25
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No, a sprite unpacker is harder, as you don't need to actually create sprites for a sprite maker, just a graphical interface for the Sprite Tool...

	06-09-2002 00:15									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus No, a sprite unpacker is harder, as you don't need to actually create sprites for a sprite maker, just a graphical interface for the Sprite Tool...

Actual it depends on that you want, if you just want to get the graphics then it is easy, you just need to create a commando based program that gets as an argument the sprite file and will extract the graphics. Actual there is no need for an graphical user interface. Of course if you whish to be able to recompile the graphics afterwards again without to put a lot of time into renaming it and and adapting the script file if necessary then it is more difficuilt. But as I said it is possible to create with the sprite maker a lot of sprites to create examples. Martin the Dane started first only with a TileViewer before the program turned into TileEdit, the program was able to show as much as we understood of the graphics format. So actual the first step to create a sprite maker/editor with a graphical user interface is the creaton of a sprite viewer you have to understand the format.

-Martin