23-03-2001 15:18									#1
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The interview Gamespot UK have had with Sid is really interesting and informative, just look at this quotes:

About leaders:

quote: Great nations can produce gifted leaders from history, each one capable of leading your civilization to martial glory. Whether helming an army on a distant battlefield or passing their personal experiences onto future generations of soldiers, these towering figures can single-handedly alter the course of history.

And:

quote: This is a very cool new part of the game. As you enter into diplomatic relations with other Civs, a leader representing that Civ will appear (like Abraham Lincoln for the Americans or Mao Tse Tung for the Chinese) who you'll be able to interact with during your negotiations. The leaders will show a range of expressions, which will change depending on the types of deals you try to broker with them!

As you can see, the leaders can lead you to martial glory, that will end some of the discussion on that, or?

About the timespan:

quote: Civ III will cover from 4000BC to somewhere around the year 2020. The game will offer several ways to win, so the ultimate objective will depend on which pathway to victory you choose (we'll talk more about new ways to win in an upcoming website update).

About multiplayer(not much):

quote: We're working on a really fun and unique multiplayer concept that we'll talk more about when we're closer to completing it.

That was the most important(in my eyes) updates. Well guys, what do you think?

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	23-03-2001 16:22									#2
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To me the new happy thing was effictive extorsion

quote: Want to offer a Peace Treaty to the Iroquois, but only if they will pay five gold pieces per turn? Just make the demand.

I like this...
And also

quote: For example, your relations with the Zulus might include a peace treaty as well as a mutual protection pact, a right of passage agreement, and a trade embargo against the French.

Good news indeed

Personally I am a little afraid of "Great leaders" and theire effect. I hope they will not have a too big influence.


Oh, one has to wonder what kind of terrain system they really have?

	23-03-2001 17:59									#3
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I'm worried about the terrain as well. I think we can all agree we're sick of diamond tiles. A 3-D map would be nice. But I was looking at screenshots of Gettysburg and Anietam and, frankly, the 3-D terrain in those titles looked pretty horrible.

I was thinking something along the lines of a Railroad Tycoon II 3-D surface would look really nice and work really well.

	23-03-2001 18:17									#4
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In the Interview he also states that there will be a site update soon

	24-03-2001 10:28									#5
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The MOST encouraging thing I heard was that throwaway comment about "trade embargo against the french"

That means that trade sanctions will probably be a part of this game. I don't know how many times I got teed off because a civ I'm at war with goes and makes a lucrative trade route with one of my cities, and I want to cut them off...

	24-03-2001 10:35									#7
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Fun and unique multiplayer

That's the part I'm happiest to hear...maybe we'll get a decent system for asynchronous (aka server-based or PBEM) playing!

	24-03-2001 10:50									#8
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''I was thinking something along the lines of a Railroad Tycoon II 3-D surface would look really nice and work really well.''

I have played only the original Tycoon then got the civ bug and never got around to getting II.

Since they have the code you just might be right.

Does everyone else think that II terrain is good for Civ III??

	23-03-2001 23:25									#9
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Firaxis has nothing to do with Railroad Tycoon II. Hasbro (at the time) consented to Poptop's use of that game name, and Poptop is the company who owns that code -- which it appears IS making another appearance, underneath their new game coming out next month, called "Tropico."

The thing I didn't like about this "interview" is the apparent cribbing of some of the answers from Firaxis press releases. The only thing I noticed that was really new was... actually, I'm not entirely sure I haven't seen all of it before. I assume this is because of Meier's sticking to the script himself, and not G-spot repurposing old information.

	24-03-2001 02:43									#14
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Oh well

	24-03-2001 07:48									#15
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I wasn't saying there was a connection between Firaxis and Railroad Tycoon II. I was saying however that RR2 had some sexy 3-D terrain, and maybe that's how Civ3 is going to look...maybe!! I don't know, I'm not god, I don't hold the answers to the mysteries of the universe!!!

Lol, and going by what Dan said about screenshots, it looks like we're in for a long wait ( Sigh

	24-03-2001 09:53									#16
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While obviously they can't exactly use RR tycoon II terrain, they should use something that looks like it.

	24-03-2001 12:05									#17
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I agree. I hope it'll be at least that good. Especially I hope the continents look like real continents, a la Civ I. NOT like in Civ 2, please!!!

	24-03-2001 14:55									#18
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Civ1 maps rule!!!!!

	24-03-2001 16:54									#19
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I never played Civ1, but I'd agree that the Civ2 continents didn't really look 'continent-ish' as we'd think of them in terms of the Earth. Did Civ1 kinda look more 'continent-ish'? Raingoon??

	25-03-2001 01:00									#22
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Zanzin, Civ I maps looked much more like continents. At first I thought the isometric perspective of Civ 2 made its continents look more stringy but even if you flattened out Civ 2 and made it like Civ I, the land masses would still look more like a world of large and small islands with no definitive oceans in between. If anything got me off Civ 2 it was the scarcity of real oceans and the predominance of those globule strings of land. No matter what variables I set Civ 2's map generator at, it never came close to matching the ability of Civ I's map generator to evoke a real world.

	25-03-2001 07:59									#23
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Raingoon,

thanks for the info.

WEll, Sid said in the interview that their resident mathematician had come up with a great algorithm that creates random maps....lets hope so!

	25-03-2001 08:09									#24
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I read Sid Meier's interview, but frankly, I did not find any new information from it. I did learn anything that I did not already know from the forum.

oh well (sigh)

	25-03-2001 09:38									#25
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Zanzin, you're welcome -- I agree, I was encouraged by that quote. MrFun, I had the same impression from the "interview" although Zanzin just reminded me of at least one thing that seemed new. Hey, Sid, baby, I hope that's one wicked, wicked map algorythm!

	25-03-2001 15:41									#26
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That whole interview is a scam, exept for the "console vs. pc" sentence. Sid (or whoever wrote the interview) just copy-pasted the info that was standing on the web for weeks, down to a sentence.

	26-03-2001 05:20									#28
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We finally have a count on some of the civs that will be in. Here's whp Firaxis has shown or mentioned thus far: the Americans, Zulus, French, Chinese, English, Iroquois (New!), and Russians. Any others we're sure of?

	26-03-2001 16:44									#30
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This Sid interview make me fear alot about mentioned "light heart" elements added for Fun.

After months of debate here at Apolyton about CIV III realism and best balancing history vs playability, I have a strange feeling of incoming Civ III great hopes derailing for unnecessary humor just in sake of larger impulsive buyers audience...

You know, that gaming debate Deja Vu about "Wars are so more fun", "Smiling leaders" that add special effects (Magic? Super human? ) to your army...

Quotes a la SMAC are ok, but a despot that tell jokes or looks and acts like a Joker? Is the Epic of Civilization running head down to a wall?

May be it's only because today I'm in a bad mood...

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